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'Greater Idaho' took one step closer to being a real thing as 5 more counties voted to explore leaving liberal Oregon for conservative Idaho
https://www.businessinsider.com/oregons-rural-counties-search-for-representation-with-idaho-2021-5 ^ | 5-25-21 | Sarah Al-Arshani

Posted on 05/29/2021 9:10:52 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion

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To: Hieronymus

Rural SE Harner county would appear to be a natural part of an annexation. What gives there ? Local RINO or D leadership ?


21 posted on 05/29/2021 10:26:34 AM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'm going ahead.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

America could really be split into hundreds. The COVID and libtard refugees are what worry me about this migration.


22 posted on 05/29/2021 10:33:13 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: chiller

It’s Harney.

It hasn’t been voted on but it will be.


23 posted on 05/29/2021 10:33:50 AM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: LS
Could you conceivably have an Idaho that stretches from Canada, down through the eastern half of Oregon to the middle of the agricultural areas of CA?

If the Texit movement becomes a realistic option, couldn't a series of counties from Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, and the Dakotas succeed from their states creating a Greater Texas that could stretch from Mexico to Canada? Of course, the difference would be that Greater Texas would be a sovereign state. A host of legal issues would arise from this move beginning with the question of whether Texas still has that right of succession and could U.S. counties succeed to become part of a new nation.

24 posted on 05/29/2021 10:37:08 AM PDT by CommerceComet ("You know why there's a Second Amendment? In case, the government forgets the first." Rush Limbaugh )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
There is also the proposed State of Jefferson.


25 posted on 05/29/2021 10:53:17 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is the last legally elected U.S. President.)
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To: Hieronymus

Yep...Not all, but most people who are prosperous understand why. Some of the wealthy from birth/marriage, those interested in cheap labor, or those interested in buying power etc. vote Rat. Having an “education” from collectivist infected universities also taints some of them for life.


26 posted on 05/29/2021 10:55:28 AM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground - Mencken)
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To: Hieronymus
The anti-Salem/Portland sentiments run high enough that it would be interesting. I sense more of an interest in the State of Jefferson, though.

It took a lot to get our train connection to the Valley up and running. I think that any arrangements for rail would have to go through Lane County. Some years ago. we had a vote to fund a road from Coos County to Couer de’Alene. I don’t recall the numbers on that.

27 posted on 05/29/2021 11:04:58 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: PerConPat

The line about the rich man is from Alabama’s “Song of the South”.

The fundamental reason for the Southern Democrat vote was originally the very lucid point that Lincoln was a Republican, who was responsible for burning our (or our ancestors’) houses and occupying our land, much more than “Mr. Roosevelt gonna save us all”, though that eventually became a factor in some circles.

Lincoln’s boys tried to hand my great-great-great grandfather. I have a couple of great uncles who can remember their grandmother, who was a very bitter woman, who underwent a very bitter childhood. Lincoln’s fault.

Lincoln, and for that matter FDR, carried much more weight in Coos County in 1980 than now.


28 posted on 05/29/2021 11:17:42 AM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Forget joining Idaho, split off and form their own state
2 republican senators
at least one republican representative.


29 posted on 05/29/2021 11:22:36 AM PDT by Godzilla (Never give up, never surrender . . . . . .)
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To: gundog

Nice tag line—I just looked it up.

Did your Dad like the book?

He had us read A Separate Peace, for which I have long been grateful.


30 posted on 05/29/2021 11:23:25 AM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
For Longmire fans:

Absaroka was an area in the United States, comprising parts of the states of Montana, South Dakota, and Wyoming, that contemplated secession and statehood in 1939.

31 posted on 05/29/2021 11:30:41 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Hieronymus
I presume that he liked it. I found a relatively new copy in his stuff. When I started the seventh grade I was summoned to the kitchen table, and presented with a copy of Animal Farm. I was asked to read aloud from it. An impromptu reading test, of sorts. Dad said that I read better than many of his students.

The chronology of what I read is a bit hazy. Animal Farm in Dinkins’ freshman class, or was it in junior high? I know we did the insufferable Great Expectations thing in Dinkins’ class. A Separate Peace in dad’s sophomore class. 1984 was in there, somewhere. Rainey assigned A Clockwork Orange in his sci-fi class. He asked the next day if anyone had finished it. I was the only one, but it seemed like a reasonable question.

32 posted on 05/29/2021 11:45:23 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: UnwashedPeasant; Hieronymus
Couple that map with this one to get an idea of how Greater Idaho and Jefferson compete for interest.


33 posted on 05/29/2021 11:54:56 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Hieronymus
It would be great for Coos Bay to become Idaho’s leading port. How much would it run to provide and east-west rail connection?

Although Coos Bay would be a much larger port, Idaho does have a seaport already in Lewiston, Idaho. Much of the wheat and dried peas grown on the Palouse gets trucked to the Port of Lewiston where it moves on ocean-capable ships down the Snake River to the Columbia River through Astoria to the Pacific Ocean.

34 posted on 05/29/2021 12:33:31 PM PDT by CommerceComet ("You know why there's a Second Amendment? In case, the government forgets the first." Rush Limbaugh )
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To: gundog

I should read it. I value your Dad’s opinion.

Along side A Separate Peace (and possibly ahead of it) as far as D-9 literature influencing me goes, I would put Hondo, which we read in grade 8 (possibly 7) at about the time I had exhausted Zane Grey. I’ve read most of L’Amour over the years, many of his works multiple times.

I hate Great Expectations as well. My great-grandfather, born in late 19th century England, loved Dickens and gave me a copy for my 10th birthday which I still believe that my mother made me read (she denies it). I waded through it again in grade 9 with Corrigan. I think we did Animal Farm freshman year as well—and West Side Story and Romeo and Juliet.

With Mohr we did A Room of One’s Own and A Portrait of an Artist as a Young Man. Ralph still considers the later with my class as one of the highlights of his AP career—and is still fascinated by my class’s reaction to it. Apparently the class could easily enough imagine forsaking religion, family and country, but couldn’t fathom forsaking friends. Personally I was kind of stuck on the religion thing and in hindsight am not remotely surprised that a bunch of 17 and 18 year olds that are not particularly well-grounded in religion, community, or family put tremendous value in friends.


35 posted on 05/29/2021 12:43:48 PM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: CommerceComet

That I did not know. I had assumed that the dams on the Columbia were not capable of accommodating ocean going vessels.


36 posted on 05/29/2021 12:47:46 PM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: Hieronymus

I’m a bit surprised that you haven’t read it. Have you read Matt Bracken’s “Enemies...” trilogy? I couldn’t put them down, once I started reading.


37 posted on 05/29/2021 1:18:09 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Hieronymus

Eight locks between the Pacific and Lewiston.


38 posted on 05/29/2021 1:29:53 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: gundog

My tastes are wide-ranging and eclectic, with huge holes in terms of the modern canon—though a few relatively mid-level modern authors that I’ve read a good deal of—Sinclair Lewis, James Michener, Evelyn Waugh, Sigrid Undset, Tom Clancy. I’m also pretty tight on cash—I’ve read some (maybe at the time all?) of what I could find of Bracken for free online.


39 posted on 05/29/2021 1:56:07 PM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: steve86

Eight locks or eight sets of locks?


40 posted on 05/29/2021 1:56:37 PM PDT by Hieronymus
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