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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Thus far, there are zero deaths where anyone has stated that a COVID-19 vaccine was the cause of a person’s death or contributed to the person’s death anywhere in the United States.

Assuming this is true, what a stark contrast with COVID death reporting. The exact opposite, in fact.

So if I died in 2020, it was COVID, no matter what. If I die in 2021, it will NEVER be related to a COVID vaccine. (example exaggerated to make the point)

Is it any wonder the general public does not trust the advice to vaccinate?

15 posted on 05/24/2021 2:54:21 PM PDT by viewfromthefrontier
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To: viewfromthefrontier
"if I died in 2020, it was COVID, no matter what."

Deaths from most causes in 2020 were right in line with normal expectations. Same number of cancer deaths as the year before, slightly more heart disease deaths than the year before, etc. And if causes of death were being shuffled around in 2020, total deaths would be unchanged. Total deaths in 2020 were actually 523,000 higher than 2019, which is an over 18% jump over 2019. Normal year-over-year increases are 0.3% - 0.7%. 18% hasn't been seen since WWII.

"If I die in 2021, it will NEVER be related to a COVID vaccine. (example exaggerated to make the point)"

Is the other possibility simply that no deaths have yet been found to have been caused by a vaccine? I mean, no death certificates state that cause of death was laser blast by space aliens either. That doesn't mean there's some grand conspiracy hiding all the victims of space alien laser blasts; there simply haven't been any.

"Is it any wonder the general public does not trust the advice to vaccinate?"

164,000,000 Americans have already gotten a COVID-19 vaccine. That includes over 85% of seniors who've gotten at least one dose already. There's only about 7% who claim they'll never get it.

22 posted on 05/24/2021 3:03:10 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: viewfromthefrontier

Assuming this is true, what a stark contrast with COVID death reporting. The exact opposite, in fact.

So if I died in 2020, it was COVID, no matter what. If I die in 2021, it will NEVER be related to a COVID vaccine. (example exaggerated to make the point)
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Excellent post. On May 5 the CDC quietly updated its report to show that of the 500,000+ deaths it claims were from Covid-19, only 5% reported Covid as the only cause. The other 95% who died had an average of 4 co-morbidities (hint: they didn’t die of Covid).

The CDC confirmed to a reporter that a motorcycle accident was literally counted as a Covid death if it occurred within 60 days of a positive Covid test.

“Is it any wonder the general public does not trust the advice to vaccinate?”

Yes - I think that’s the piece of the picture that is seldom mentioned. The CDC has displayed malevolence and incompetence throughout this entire ‘plandemic’ but we’re supposed to revere their integrity anyway because the MSM said so.


73 posted on 05/24/2021 4:04:21 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: viewfromthefrontier
"So if I died in 2020, it was COVID, no matter what. If I die in 2021, it will NEVER be related to a COVID vaccine. (example exaggerated to make the point) "

The CDC has and does allow (or require) for probable/presumed cases (and deaths and for which hospitals can indeed obtain more gov. funding) based upon as little as having unexplained having shortness of breath or a cough and having traveled to or lived in an area with sustained, ongoing community transmission of SARS-CoV-2. Or shortness of breath and and just being a senior citizen or having “close contact” with another probable case.

Below are the pertinent excerpts far that criteria from the CDC page (emphasis mine) Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

…CSTE realizes that field investigations will involve evaluations of persons with no symptoms and these individuals will need to be counted as cases.

Probable

OR

Epidemiologic Linkage

One or more of the following exposures in the 14 days before onset of symptoms:

OR

The above provide minimal criteria by which a person can be classed as being having Covid-19 and dying of the same. And for which hospitals can indeed obtain more gov. funding for them.[2]

Based upon this criteria we can easily surmise that many cases and deaths are being classed as Covid-19 when in reality they are something else, including the flu (cases of which are very low).

It is true that many Covid-19 cases and deaths are not reported, however, unlike cases in which about have have no symptoms, I think it is far more likely that there are more deaths being reported as by Covid-19 then that are missed. The reason for this is because those with symptoms are much more likely to have been tested and diagnosed as having Covid-19 and those with symptoms of the ones most likely to die.

Footnotes

[1] Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
[2] Fact check: Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators

118 posted on 05/24/2021 4:56:47 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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