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Addressing The "Concern" Posted On Free Republic That Deaths Following Covid-19 "Vaccination" And Published To VAERS Are COINCIDENTAL And Not Useful Indicators of Safety
5/24/2021 | vanity

Posted on 05/24/2021 2:18:06 PM PDT by ransomnote

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To: ransomnote

My favorite “adverse events” list is of “adverse events” that happen after I get out of bed...

Can’t imagine anyone is buying this garbage that you’re always careful to post without the prominent disclai9mer.


61 posted on 05/24/2021 3:54:07 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: Kickass Conservative

62 posted on 05/24/2021 3:55:27 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: ransomnote
All die eventually but natural deaths normally don't cluster around vaccination date.

The reports in VAERS are mostly right after the vax date. That's simply because whoever reported correlated the death with the vaccine. As time passes they lose the VAERS handout or assume it wasn't due to the vax.

63 posted on 05/24/2021 3:56:01 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

you’re all over these threads...

if you don’t like being called out on your hypocrisy then you should consider posting your government propaganda elsewhere...


64 posted on 05/24/2021 3:56:02 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... šŸ˜)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest; GOP_Party_Animal
VAERS is the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. Itā€™s a passive system that accepts reports from anyone anywhere in the world. China, Russia, Nigera; you name it.

Those are intentional, calculated decisions by the CDC, which decided what sort of information would be useful to help it monitor public health.

The reports are not vetted. One doctor in the US put in a VAERS report claiming the flu vaccine turned him into the Incredible Hulk. Another person from the UK put in a VAERS report claiming a vaccine turned his young daughter into Wonder Woman.

And then those reports were vetted and deleted.

For COVID-19 vaccines, healthcare providers are required by law to file VAERS reports for any serious adverse event (e.g. death, hospitalization, etc.) regardless of the cause.

But they don't do it.

So if anyone gets hit by a bus after getting a COVID-19 shot, healthcare providers are required by law to file that in VAERS.

This is false. PROVIDE A LINK OR ADMIT YOU JUST LIED. I already refuted your lie by quoting text indicating your statement was false - go get it.

And now you have but a glimpse into the quality of the data in VAERS.

The quality of the CDC's VAERS database is the responsibility of the CDC and FDA and reflects their lack of committment to protecting public health, or more accurately, their commitment to deceiving the public.

The quality of VAERS is much higher than that of your distorted posts.

65 posted on 05/24/2021 3:58:51 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
There's a video of many people seated in socially distanced chairs in a large auditorium, and we see one person fall out of their chair (possible head injury from fall?) and have a seizure

I took my friend along because he can't drive. Has had a bad leg for years but recent surgery made it worse. Anyway as he hobbled out, holding my arm, I told one woman waiting in her car "He was fine when we went in"

He and I got a good laugh out of it. But I wouldn't be surprised if we show up on youtube.

66 posted on 05/24/2021 4:01:08 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“There are zero deaths known to have been caused by any COVID-19 vaccine anywhere in the United States.”

Right...the cause was blood clots...and just because previously people have died directly after receiving the covid is purely anecdotal.

These are not the droids you are looking for...

Meh.


67 posted on 05/24/2021 4:01:34 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Posting nonsense 8 million times doesn't make it less nonsensical; it just makes it spammy nonsense.

Interestingly, you say EVERY post is 'nonsensical' the same way you say every death is not caused by the vax.

The law of averages says you're wrong. Not EVERY post is nonsensical just as every death is not from the vax.

But a VAST MAJORITY of them are, both articles and vax deaths.

You just don't want them to be.

But hey, if you think you're right and President Trump is wrong, then by all means stand up and say so loudly, proudly, and often.

Huh. I thought I'd been doing that for weeks (months?) now. So much so that you even pointed it out in an effort to budge me off my position and shut me up by invoking Trump's (and Farrakhan's) name.

Guess I'll just have to get louder. I can do that. ThankQ for the advice.


68 posted on 05/24/2021 4:02:17 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Where do you source your material? The number of blanket statements that are false are jaw dropping.
Let’s just drill down on one.
“Only 7% of Americans say they will never get COVID 19 test injections.”

A recent NPR/Marist poll found that one in four Americans said they would refuse a coronavirus vaccine outright if offered. Another 5% are “undecided” about whether they would get the shot. Although the numbers were highest for Republican men and residents of rural areas, there were still a significant number of people across all ages and demographic groups who claim they will say “no.”
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/04/07/984697573/vaccine-refusal-may-put-herd-immunity-at-risk-researchers-warn

Feds rethink vaccination strategy as slowing demand reveals stark divide. The White House expected vaccination rates to drop off in rural communities and among younger people who are hesitant about the shot.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/05/03/feds-covid-vaccination-rates-drop-485151


69 posted on 05/24/2021 4:02:29 PM PDT by JayGalt (The dogs bark but the caravan moves on.)
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To: DugwayDuke
If anyone believes that hundreds of thousands of healthcare professionals would remain silent in the face of 600,000 deaths and 50 million adverse reactions, they must have an incredibly low opinion of doctors, nurses, etc,.

Doctors and other heath care professionals will follow the herd and spout whatever the conventional wisdom happens to be so as not to jeopardize their very lucrative careers.

For example:

Doctors will still tell you to substitute margarine for butter despite the fact that butter is healthier and margarine is BAD for your health.

Doctors will still recommend you avoid red meat and eat more grains like bread and pasta to lose weight even though the OPPOSITE is true.

Doctors will still try to tell you that you have a "drinking problem" if you consume more than six alcoholic drinks in a WEEK!

Doctors will still try to tell you that eggs will raise your cholesterol level and that if you eat eggs at all, you should stick to egg whites (and throw the highly nutritious yolks away). Ludicrious! Eggs do absolutely nothing to raise your cholesterol level by the way.

Doctors will still put you on prescriptions like blood pressure pills when the real solution is to improve your diet and exercise more.

I can go on and on.

This is not meant to disparage our doctors but to point out that most doctors are not going to jeopardize their careers by going against the conventional wisdom of the day. They are just going to spout the conventional talking points and send you on your way.

It is up to the individual to do his/her own research when it comes to maintaining one's health.

Case in point, back in 2003 I was seriously overweight and I took it upon myself to switch to a low-carb diet and exercise daily (target of 5 miles a day of walking). I lost over one hundred pounds and over the past two decades, have mostly kept it off and stuck to my new lifestyle.

Not one doctor ever gave me credit for that. In fact, they will tell me that I have too much fat in my diet and that I ought to consider eating less meat and more grains like cereal (instead of egg and butter). They will continue to tell me to tell me this even as my cholesterol level has been below 200 this entire time.

70 posted on 05/24/2021 4:02:41 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Give me a Pigfoot and a Bottle of Beer)
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To: miserare

miserare wrote: “These days, people just want to keep their jobs, at any cost.”

Would you keep quiet if you had knowledge of 600,000 vaccine caused deaths and 50 million adverse reactions from the vaccine? There are hundreds of thousands of healthcare professionals. You are accusing all of them of complete indifference boarding upon criminality when you allege they would keep this quiet.


71 posted on 05/24/2021 4:02:49 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: mrsmith; All
"My favorite ā€œadverse eventsā€ list is of ā€œadverse eventsā€ that happen after I get out of bed..."

"....AND then get hammered on FR all day for posting nothing but crap."
72 posted on 05/24/2021 4:03:25 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: viewfromthefrontier

Assuming this is true, what a stark contrast with COVID death reporting. The exact opposite, in fact.

So if I died in 2020, it was COVID, no matter what. If I die in 2021, it will NEVER be related to a COVID vaccine. (example exaggerated to make the point)
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Excellent post. On May 5 the CDC quietly updated its report to show that of the 500,000+ deaths it claims were from Covid-19, only 5% reported Covid as the only cause. The other 95% who died had an average of 4 co-morbidities (hint: they didn’t die of Covid).

The CDC confirmed to a reporter that a motorcycle accident was literally counted as a Covid death if it occurred within 60 days of a positive Covid test.

“Is it any wonder the general public does not trust the advice to vaccinate?”

Yes - I think that’s the piece of the picture that is seldom mentioned. The CDC has displayed malevolence and incompetence throughout this entire ‘plandemic’ but we’re supposed to revere their integrity anyway because the MSM said so.


73 posted on 05/24/2021 4:04:21 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: gas_dr

you’re another one that’s all over these threads...

if you don’t like being called out on your hypocrisy then you should consider posting your government propaganda elsewhere...

bless your heart...


74 posted on 05/24/2021 4:05:13 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... šŸ˜)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest; heavy metal
Stop posting to me.


75 posted on 05/24/2021 4:05:15 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: SamAdams76

SamAdams76 wrote: “Doctors and other heath care professionals will follow the herd and spout whatever the conventional wisdom happens to be so as not to jeopardize their very lucrative careers.”

Do you not see the difference in engaging in a conspiracy to cover up 600,000 deaths and 50 million adverse reactions and telling you to eat less meat and switch to margarine?


76 posted on 05/24/2021 4:05:17 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: cgbg

The trouble starts at the vaccine location. There is no attempt to identify people who may have medical conditions that may make them more likely to have serious side affects (or worse) from the vaccines.
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True. But it may start earlier. The vaccines were not tested for most co-morbidities so even if they knew what the patient’s medical history was, they’d have no data to compare it with. Pfizer’s Phase III medical trials are ongoing.

All the medical trials for the vaccines have been too brief, had too few people etc. They are cutting corners and calling half-baked efforts ‘trials’ and the FDA/CDC/Fauci are now hinting they are about to label these products ‘FDA Approved’ without the normal 12 years or so of long-term testing required.

Troll on FR have bragged that FDA Approval would mean we’d no longer have an ‘excuse’ not to get the Covid ‘vaccines’ and that we could then be legally required to do so.


77 posted on 05/24/2021 4:07:56 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: musicman

The OP must actually like getting “hammered on FR all day for posting nothing but crap.”
She certainly doesn’t consider it an “adverse event”, but likely the high point of her poor life.


78 posted on 05/24/2021 4:09:23 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: heavy metal

I asked you to please stop posting to me. You see now posting to me for the purposes of harrasimrnt and abuse. STOP.


79 posted on 05/24/2021 4:09:55 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr; All
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80 posted on 05/24/2021 4:11:17 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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