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Electric F-150 Lightning: Sandys First Impressions
Munro Live ^ | 05/20/2021 | Sandy Munro

Posted on 05/22/2021 2:03:54 PM PDT by taildragger

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To: Revel

Not to mention Zho Xiden’s aversion to COAL. You know....that stuff that powers the plants that PRODUCE ELECTRICITY? And we should not overlook the FACT that ELECTRIC powered vehicles do NOT do well at all in FREEZING or even COLD Temperatures. That sorely diminishes any kind of power supply from batteries. Not to mention how does one dispose of batteries who have run their life span?

I’ll stick with my 5.0 V8 gas powered F-150, thank you, very much.


41 posted on 05/22/2021 5:05:49 PM PDT by Howie66 (God Bless TEXAS! #Texit)
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To: Artemis Webb

No kidding!

NEXT!


42 posted on 05/22/2021 5:06:32 PM PDT by Howie66 (God Bless TEXAS! #Texit)
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To: humblegunner

If you have any interest in excellent engineering analysis of current automobiles & trucks, you really been to watch a few of Sandy’s videos.


43 posted on 05/22/2021 5:21:43 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ( Experience is the best teacher, but if you can accept it 2nd hand, the tuition is less!)
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To: SkyDancer

It depends o how long you’re willing to wait.


44 posted on 05/22/2021 5:30:26 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: taildragger

Many years ago in the woodworking machinery industry, there was a company that in addition to their corporate name, put “Lightning” on their machines just as Ford has done here.

Not a good idea.

All of the competitors laughed that lightning never struck twice in the same place. And it did not.


45 posted on 05/22/2021 5:34:05 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: maddog55
....."No electric for me."....

I'll never buy anything electric that claims to be a car or truck! They seem awful confident they will sell, but just imagine driving and having to stop to charge up for 6-8 hours instead of 6-8 minutes. They are dreaming. Am I supposed to pay $80 grand for something that only runs to the store and back?

46 posted on 05/22/2021 5:34:35 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: wally_bert

Yeah but be sure turbines are to speed. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJZbef8eYO8


47 posted on 05/22/2021 5:34:58 PM PDT by xp38
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To: BwanaNdege; All
"If you have any interest in excellent engineering analysis of current automobiles & trucks, you really need to watch a few of Sandy's videos"

That was kind of my intent. Sandy is an old school Ford guy who was seeped in the Deming quality movement back in the day. His team's analyzes cars (and other things) for competitors has caught the eye of anyone who is anyone in the biz and Wall St too. And his expertise goes into tons of arenas included aerospace. Check out the PAV report & his firms proposal to revitalize General Aviation. He just let it be known a while back they had serous backing & how it all went west.

He's a materials & manufacturing simplification guru. and for the longest time was not an EV fan. That has changed for an old salt, that got my attention.

However Bwana, your the only one to pick up on it.

48 posted on 05/22/2021 5:40:01 PM PDT by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Songs of Angry Men!")
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To: xp38

Roger, moving out!


49 posted on 05/22/2021 5:40:03 PM PDT by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: taildragger; All
One more thing.

Solid State Batteries are coming and could offer up to a 50% increase in range and charge times of 15 minutes (per the battery companies). The time frame? As soon as 2025, industry experts are claiming.

So do the math, and F-150 Lightning with a Solid State Battery could go from 230 / 300 mile range to 345 / 450 respectively with this 1.3x energy density improvement. That would be significant, if the energy density and range increases they are discussing in their presentations come to frution.


* GM has chosen SES as a Solid State Supplier.
* Ford is going with Solid-Power out of Colorado
* And VW with Quantumscape.

tipping Point Stuff.

https://www.ses.ai/

https://solidpowerbattery.com/

https://www.quantumscape.com/

BTW QuantumScape may also be dancing with Ford and BMW. (Maybe offer it as a premium product? Who knows)

Put this on 1.5x and watch J. Singh being interviewed by Sandy Munro. Due your due diligence on both. This interview is more significant than anyone will see...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKFiQIMyF-A

50 posted on 05/22/2021 6:00:29 PM PDT by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Songs of Angry Men!")
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To: Fresh Wind
"According to Car and Driver, Ford hasn't released the battery capacity, but they estimate the standard range will be 115 kwh and the extended range will be 150 kwh. If true, that's more than any Tesla."

I heard the Pac weighs 1800 lbs. State of the art is 250 to 260 Watts/Kg's. I did a quick conversion of Lbs to Kg and came up with 204KW. Take away the weight of the Pac's components and think of what the cells are doing, and perhaps it is approaching 200KW's. If so that is a big deal.

That is a wild @$$ guess on my part, I maybe all wrong.

51 posted on 05/22/2021 6:08:20 PM PDT by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Songs of Angry Men!")
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To: dinodino

I had a 1986 f250 biggest pile of crap ever


52 posted on 05/22/2021 6:42:35 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: taildragger

Ford stock is a screaming buy.


53 posted on 05/22/2021 8:07:43 PM PDT by montag813 ("Fallen, fallen, is Babylon the Great")
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To: montag813
Ford stock is a screaming buy.

No it's not, if they keep making garbage that nobody buys.

Know anyone with a Mach E? Know anyone who wants a truck that takes 14 hours to charge, burns up on WOT and can't tow/haul anything across the state?

Why would anyone invest in a company that sells useless products that nobody buys?

54 posted on 05/22/2021 9:37:58 PM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: I cannot think of a name
'They' tried to sell drastic global cooling, only a few decades to fix trhe problems. That didn't work to herd the sheeple.

They tried drastic global warmin as anthropogenic global warming. That didn't work to herd the sheeple into globalism.

They switch their word to just global warming, not anthropogenic global warming, but the fix requires humans to stop the warming they are inferred tpo cause. That didn't work to herd the sheeple.

So they played their last trump card, with a plandemic of an engineered flu virus. That worked, the sheeple obeyed, wore masks. practiced social distancing, obediently lined up for the jab. Good little sheepel they are aftyer-all.

55 posted on 05/22/2021 9:58:24 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Fresh Wind

Your 5th grade math skills are lacking.

150kWh can be fully charged at 240v single phase AC with a 50 amp plug that’s the same as a cloths dryer outlet on 14 hours.

240x50=12kWh per hour

For a 30 amp kitchen stove sized plug it would take 20 hours.

It’s moot for most people as the NHTSA own data clearly shows the avg person drives less than 40 miles per day. You are talking the equivalent to filling a full tank of fuel every day of the week no one but a very VERY small number of commercial uses fills up every day.

A model S Tesla goes 4 miles per kWh. That means the avg person will use less than 10kWh per day to cover 98% again according to NHTSA data of their YEARLY driving. 10kWh is less than running a cloths dryer for two loads or baking a roast in the oven.

Most of the 150s I see on a daily basis are driven by soccer dads who take them to an office job and then to the sports bar for happy hours with nothing in the beds and they have never seen a job site. Big truck big something else is the mentality for those bozos. With my kinda stone work we carry tools and supplies but never over City to City distances so 100 miles per day with a 1500 lb bed load would suit my commercial needs just fine. I’d install a 50 amp plug in the second garage and feed the F150 off my solar panels output banked into the ERCOT grid as required by law. Put a kWh in get a kWh out net metering as the Republicans who have ran Texas for the last 20year’s have demanded.


56 posted on 05/23/2021 6:31:56 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: chuckles

—”I’ll never buy anything electric that claims to be a car or truck! “

Coming soon to a progressive paradise near you!

California has banned selling gasoline cars in the state after 2035, and Britain is aiming for 2030. China will allow only electrics or hybrids to be sold starting in 2035, and the Biden administration’s giant new infrastructure bill includes $174 billion to support electric cars—50% more than for bridges and roads. Just this week, the U.S. and other nations committed themselves to new emission reductions that will add to the effort to push internal combustion cars off the road.

...But it is not just the relative simplicity of EVs that is impelling the auto companies. They have little choice in the face of government climate policies, including potential multibillion-dollar fines, and the growing political determination to end CO2 emissions coming out of tailpipes—and, indeed, to do away with tailpipes altogether.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-electric-self-driving-cars-and-ride-hailing-will-transform-the-car-industry-11619189966?mod=article_inline


57 posted on 05/23/2021 9:16:06 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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