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To: Parmy
"Well, at least, according to the CDC, since December 2020 nearly 5000 people who were living when they took the vaccine have died."

Millions of seniors - including some on hospice care - were vaccinated right at the start of the vaccinations. They were right behind healthcare workers. If you give millions of frail, elderly folks a glass of water and watch them for weeks later, some of them will die. Those deaths must be reported - by law - regardless of causality. There have been zero deaths where a medical investigation by a doctor or medical examiner has determined that a COVID-19 vaccine actually caused or contributed to the death. At least zero that are publicly known about. That's not to say it's impossible or that it will never ever happen, just that the 5,000 number has entirely nothing to do with how safe the vaccines are.

"In addition, there have been strokes, blood clots, miscarriages and other female problems to name a few."

Only blood clots have been causally linked to any vaccines available in the US, and it's less than 20 cases so far, all with J&J's vaccine, all in women. The incidence rate for them is about 1 in 533,000. The incidence rate for blood clots for certain hormonal birth control methods in women is 1 in 1,000.

As for miscarriages and other pregnancy concerns, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists states that "no differences have been seen when comparing pregnant women participating in the v-safe pregnancy registry with the background rates of adverse pregnancy outcomes." Source

33 posted on 05/20/2021 8:33:22 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Only blood clots have been causally linked to any vaccines available in the US, and it's less than 20 cases so far, all with J&J's vaccine, all in women. The incidence rate for them is about 1 in 533,000.

They're not being reported. You do realize that a medical person who utters a peep questioning your cv19vx, or linking an adverse reaction to the vx, can loose their job?

Friend of mind who works at a TX hospital has 2 people in her care with lung clots RIGHT NOW, both 2-4 weeks post-vaccine. They were brought to her attention by another medical person on her team. Not reported. They know.
35 posted on 05/20/2021 10:06:07 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
There have been zero deaths where a medical investigation by a doctor or medical examiner has determined that a COVID-19 vaccine actually caused or contributed to the death. At least zero that are publicly known about.

Heh, one small bit of honesty from you. That’s encouraging.

It shows it’s possible.

However, it would be more accurate to say that there are none that are admitted.

Those “medical” opinions mean nothing because if they don’t want there to be a connection between the vaccines and adverse reactions and death, they simply won’t find it, so your stats are meaningless.

The pattern here is that if a person dies with COVID and some comorbidity, COVID killed him.

If a person dies after the vaccines and with, well, anything, the anything killed him.

When they want COVID to be the cause of death, that’s the way it’s counted.

When they don’t want the vaccines to be the cause of death, then the vaccine never caused it. It’s never counted as a vaccine caused death.

It was just coincidence. It would have happened anyways. Correlation is not causation. Yada, yada, yada, excuse, excuse, excuse........

36 posted on 05/20/2021 11:11:53 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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