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To: ransomnote

When was the last time you ordered convalescent plasma and gave it? In my extensive experience of giving It, it is of little efficacy.

The government cut funding because well designed studies demonstrated it is pretty useless. But you take this to mean it is a cure and the government wants no efficacious treatments. I assure you all of my colleagues and I would be screaming from the roof tops if something truly worked and was taken away.

Convalescent plasma is of minimal utility which is why it is not being funded anymore to the level it once was. Treatment evolves. It is important to keep up with it.


161 posted on 05/19/2021 10:30:23 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. sir it myself. T)
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When was the last time you ordered convalescent plasma and gave it? In my extensive experience of giving It, it is of little efficacy.

I doubt you noticed, but I am not all about convalescent plasma. I found a newscast of interest to me. I posted it. With effective treatments like Dr. McCulloughs and Dr. Zelenko's, I'm not really concerned about the continuance, ornot of convalescent plasma. For some reason, some people found it useful. 

The government cut funding because well designed studies demonstrated it is pretty useless. But you take this to mean it is a cure and the government wants no efficacious treatments. I assure you all of my colleagues and I would be screaming from the roof tops if something truly worked and was taken away.

I don't take this to mean it is a cure. You MADE THAT UP. You and other vax pushers jumped on me like WHITE ON RICE because I posted a 1 minute video. 

You are not a doctor and you have medical colleagues until you provide proof. Just a reminder, you have no medically relevant background. Unless you prove it, it's just your claim.

Also, please remember that credentialed experts before the public eye, as well as entire countries, are reporting success with medications you claim don't work and shouldn't be used. Therefore, I doubt you'd support this blood product if it worked. But. as I am of no real opinion on its importance to treatment given the physicians I quote have not mentioned it, I don't care.

Convalescent plasma is of minimal utility which is why it is not being funded anymore to the level it once was. Treatment evolves. It is important to keep up with it.

I am keeping up with the successful treatment protocols widely available which do not mention this treatment at all. For some reason, vax pushers responded to my post as if the sacred cow was being gored.

I think you all over reacted because you'd like people to know as little as possible about the fact that natural infection and the Covid-19 'vaccines' trigger different antibody responses. You want people to think they are the same. You don't want people asking questions about why they are not the same and how they differ.

212 posted on 05/19/2021 11:30:41 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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ransomnote's previous post: For some reason, vax pushers responded to this thread as if the sacred cow was being gored.

I think they all over reacted simultaneously because they don't want people to know natural infection and the Covid-19 'vaccines' trigger different antibody responses. They desperately want people to think they are the same. They don't want people asking questions about why they are not the same because too much of the reasoning for the fake 'vaccine' unravels with that line of thinking.

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That's it - the reason for the frantic attacks on this itty bitty video clip thread.

Note the vax pushers are claiming that natural antibodies are inferior to 'vaccine' triggered antibodies. This is patently false. Verified, highly experienced experts who are independent from the Deep State CDC/Fauci machinery are specifically saying that we shouldn't replace our natural antibodies, which some describe as 'robust', with the one(s) triggered by the vaccine and that we have no control over the latter.

The truth is, our 'natural antibodies' hold up quite well in the real world, and have done so for thousands of years, long-term, with no side-effects. Sometimes we get sick, and then we add medications and treatments, not experimental 'operating systems' (Moderna's promotional material calls their 'vaccine' that) or 'superior immunity in a needle." The push for the vax is a demand we act as if our immune function must be replaced with fake vaccines for life.

Why would anyone assume that a flock of vaccine companies could adequately replace human immune function with a superior, experimental 'shot' on a deadline? They've never come close to that since vaccines were invented.

When awkward questions arise about the vaccines, Fauci et. al. talk down to us, saying, "You have to understand, very little is known about T-cell immunity...." Okay so very little is known but they are sure they've come up with a superior solution to something they don't understand? 

The Covid 'vaccine' technology in play has failed to produce a single successful vaccine, or protected a single patient from other CoronaViruses, Hep C, HIV etc. in 16 years of trying prior to THE GREAT EXPERIMENT that is the Covid vax! So they bring a failed product to market, that never made it past animal trials before, and announce it's superior to the natural antibodies sufficiently protecting 99.5% (avg) of the population!

I didn't think anything of it when I saw that the Red Cross didn't want vaccinated convalescent blood, but now I suspect that the FEDS were closing a loophole by cutting funding for that blood. Someone at the Red Cross was 'too candid' and said vaccinated antigens were inferior to natural ones, and then we fell into the spin zone with multiple people making excessively defensive statements as if I actually had said they were superior! Good to know!

Unfortunately, the vaccinated can still give other types of blood which could mean spike proteins could be present. They might consider that a means of addressing those of us who don't want the Covid 'vaccine.'

Vaccine specialist Geert Vanden Bossche said the vaccine would 'wipe out' the robust variety of antibodies and tell the body cells to just produce one kind - the one in the vaccine.

Prior antigens would then be produced in insufficient numbers - he was generalizing when he said the vaccine antigens would replace native ones. They would do so, in his opinion, to the point where a person had a narrower range of antigens from which to draw, reducing their immunity to other illneses.

Vanden Bossche said the vaccine antibodies would 'out compete' the natural antibodies, and that would be true for an unknown length of time. All those who counter the Fauci/CDC narrative say it could be permanent.

I've read statments by pro vax people,"They last 3 days!" or things like that. But that's speculation - it's never been tested or proven. They could last for years, training the body to respond to diverse pathogens with a narrower set of antigen(s). That's partly why Vanden Bossche was horrified that they wanted to vaccinate not only the population, but specifically the children, threatening their immunity from a young age.

Here's a link to Vanden Bossche's video: 

A COMING COVID CATASTROPHE [PDF and 1-hour video interview with Geert Vanden Bossche]

While some disagree with Vanden Bossche's theories (e.g., immune escape, which I have seen supported elsewhere recently), sources I have come to respect due to their transparency, and independence from Fauci/CDC are unanimously against the idea of the use of a manufactured spike protein in place of natural immunity.

And lately, I've been seeing more reports that the vaccine spike proteins are toxic in and of themselves, and not in a small way. This makes sense, because according to the Pfizer and Moderna promotional materials, those companies worked with Fauci's NIH to select the spike protein their 'vaccine would produce.

Yes, the screamers say that's a 'filthy lie' and that the spike protein in the vaccine is 'safer', but they've been wrong about everything else so....

My point continues to be that since the 'vaccines' are not based on the live covid-19 virus, but on a genome China created using inappropriate technology, the spike protein in Covid infection is not the same as the spike protein in the 'vaccine.' Them's my 2 cents.

225 posted on 05/20/2021 12:17:07 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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