Posted on 05/18/2021 12:11:52 PM PDT by Red Badger
“the space between Alpha Centauri and Earth is not actually changing, as anyone who measures it from either Earth or Alpha Centauri, or any other point in the universe can confirm. Only YOUR measurement is changing.”
This entirely misses a central point of special relativity: there is no such thing as THE distance between A and B. Any measurement in an inertial frame of reference is as valid as any other.
Those are interesting ideas, and you are very right that ultimately the mind of God is unknowable.
My main issue is that, as you point out, everything seems to have been very well designed for us. The laws of physics seem perfectly written to support beings like us, and they also have a beautiful simplicity to them.
The universe beyond our solar system doesn’t seem designed with us in mind. Perhaps it isn’t. I suppose my worry is how much we matter to a God who has also created trillions of other worlds, if those worlds are not also eventually meant for us.
FTL is the only way to get to other stars ... other than all the other possible ways - cf: James Clerk Maxwell.
In simplest terms that leave out all the details, the Space-Time coordinates establish a light cone the boundaries of which represent a light beam's trajectory and which cannot be crossed by either the time coordinate (which represents the path of an object in an inertial frame) or the space coordinate (which lies outside the light cone)...
However, there are instances where the "observed" speed of light is slowed down as the light beam passes through a solid like water... then you can see the results of certain charged particles traveling faster than that light through the same medium...
Cherenkov radiation is the best example...
Including the blue glow of a nuclear cooling container or detecting the Cherenkov radiation from a muon from space passing through a block of plexiglass...
Also, quantum entanglement has information passing between objects faster than the speed of light... (Einstein's "spooky" meme)
Finally, the universe (way way way)?? out there is most likely expanding faster than the speed of light...
I'll close by pointing out a critical case of superluminal speed... Consider the speed by which our new ruling communists have attacked all of our unalienable freedoms & liberties...
I feel there has to be some method of FTL travel that is possible. Otherwise why would everything out there exist?
One of Maxwell’s postulates was that it is possible to step from any given point in the universe to any other without time or energy debt ... but no one reads him except a few solitary theoretical mathematicians. Only Tesla tried to make a practical device from Maxwell - the broadcast of free electrical energy.
Maxwell should be more famous than Einsten, Tesla, and Newton.
His equations were remarkable especially given the time period he worked in.
You’re way behind the curve- Einstein already created the theory of relativity.
And many experiments proved it to be true. A black hole is proof of it.
Some people argue that Maxwell just took what was already known and put it into a more usable mathematical form it “ a system” and did nothing creative. I disagree !
Much of the worldly press talks about possible worlds by focusing on the "goldilocks" planets. They talk as though that about the only parameter you need is for the planet to be just close enough to its host star (or stars) for water to not freeze, but just far enough away for water to not evaporate. I proport to you that they put so much focus on that one parameter that they want you to forget that there are literally thousands of parameters for a planet to be just right for advanced life. Such as:
The age of the planet relative to the age of its host star. An young star or a young planet can't host life. Nor can an old planet or old star. Our Earth happens to be just the right age, coincidentally at the same time the sun is at the right age.
The fact that there is just enough tectonic activity on Earth to stir up the heavy elements from deep within the planet and at the bottoms of the oceans for us to survive (our bodies need trace elements of heavy elements, including gold), while not enough to have too much of the heavy elements (gold is poisonous if we have too much) nor have too many earthquakes, tsunamis, and volcano eruptions to kill us all.
The fact that only Earth has a big brother size Jupiter planet that's just big enough and close enough to Earth to suck in comets and asteroids into its massive gravity well (preventing them from hitting Earth and causing Life Extermination Events every few hundred years like what killed the dinosaurs), but not so close and massive enough to cause too much tectonic activity on Earth or mess up the orbit.
And on and on and on.
I would love to see it happen.
That ‘quote’ is really a stolen paraphrase of a Robert Heinlein quote, a real person...................
Everybody starts with something known before they create something new
The Universe is ‘round’ like a globe.
If it’s too far one way, just go the other way........................
Time Travel is impossible.....................
The Expanse has the Epstein Drive for jaunts around the solar system.
“Any measurement in an inertial frame of reference is as valid as any other.”
Of course, when you are doing the math. Yet, when it comes to reality, it’s still quite obvious that not all reference frames will represent an accurate picture of objective reality. For example, if you were moving at the speed of light towards Alpha Centuari, the distance between the sun and AC shrinks to ZERO, from your perspective, but still, the two stars would not collide with catastrophic consequences. So while your reference frame would be completely valid mathematically, it is NOT as valid a representation of reality as just about any other reference frame you could pick.
Your example doesn't apply, as special relativity does not allow light-speed travel. (The FTL travel of the article involves stretching distances behind the traveler, so zero separation again does not apply.)
One could point out that near-light-speed travel would bring the stars into arbitrarily close proximity. But many other observations would also change, e.g, the shape of the stars; if one works out ALL the physics, no laws are violated in the traveler's frame of reference.
“Your example doesn’t apply, as special relativity does not allow light-speed travel.”
Of course it does. Zillions of photons are traveling at the speed of light right now, perfectly in accordance with special relativity. It just doesn’t allow you to accelerate a massive object to the speed of light (in the spatial dimensions).
“if one works out ALL the physics, no laws are violated in the traveler’s frame of reference”
Which is not the same as saying that their perspective, in their frame of reference is as accurate depiction of objective reality as every other. The math may work perfectly well, but the conclusions you draw may not be the correct ones, if your perception of reality has been skewed, for example by the relativistic effects that I’ve already mentioned.
Barking nonsense; math is the language of physics, so if the math works then the physics applies.
“math is the language of physics, so if the math works then the physics applies”
Sure, but physics is still just an attempt to approximate reality, and shouldn’t be ontologically confused with reality itself. If your physics tells you that in some circumstances, an entire dimension of space collapses and the universe becomes 2-dimensional (as relativity does in some reference frames), that does not mean that, in reality, the universe is actually collapsing into 2-dimensions. THAT would be “barking nonsense” to interpret the physics in that manner.
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