Posted on 05/10/2021 3:30:37 PM PDT by MtnClimber
following the Clinton crime family defense; no body, no evidence, no crime
Thanks for that info. I’m sure the fake news and demsheviks are getting quite nervous.
We have no idea if logs are missing, all the posting I’ve done comes strictly from a Cisco System Router and Switch perspective....because that’s where my all experience was gained...
Cisco System routers and switches rarely contain log files, Cisco Routers can be configured to log 8 different levels activity, the levels range from log everything to log only major emergencies....
The default log size in a cisco router is 4096 bytes, which is about 60 log entries the size of the log file can be increased but even if you quadrupled we’re talking 240 log entries which is nothing depending on your log level increase the log size will take away from memory which is another reason to not do it that way, you can configure a router to log to it’s flash, that also is extremely limited in most cases, that’s why I estimate over 90% of organizations send log entries to a server which we’ve heard nothing about the auditors trying to obtain....
So bottom line we know absolutely nothing about if log files are missing....
Why would it be an indictment....
I doubt a Police/Fire dispatching system could change votes that are cast....
It would take a person to do that, either at the site or remotely and we know Dominion People were working throughout the election process in the tabulation area....I highly doubt they went from machine to machine and made changes, if in fact they made changes they did it from a location where they had communication to the machines themselves thru the network via a laptop most likely...
Sensitive data rides on the networks of every organization, you think Bank of America isolates sensitive financial information on separate networks, of course not, a computer network is akin to a telephone network it’s the medium data travels on, every second of every day sensitive information is passed over the telephone network and no one bats an eye...
Every day for last week we’ve had 1-2 or more articles posted about Maricopa county refusing to turn over the routers and people automatically assume the worst and we’ve had endless discussions about this in this forum...
Free Republic isn’t an isolated place, that same discussion is taking place everywhere....and guess what....
We are missing what is really important, the actual physical ballots and the machines that count them...
Mathew Deperno the lawyer in Michigan is challenging their results has stated the analysis shows how Dominion Machines can be configured to alter votes to change the outcome of the election....
In Michigan and in Maricopa County both use Dominion Machines....
At not time that I’ve seen in Michigan has a request for Routers been made because it’s not necessary....
What’s important is the physical ballots and the machines that count them....
If the auditors don’t have full access to the vote counting machines including all passwords, that’s a problem...
The router issue is a distraction meant to get people to look away from the real issue....
Look at the response from Maricopa County, they say sensitive Law Enforcement information is on those routes, which is a lie but it will be used to discredit any negative information that comes out of this audit....and to take up time from the real issues...
The biggest reason for putting everything on one network is cost and complexity....
The cost would be prohibitive, cabling, equipment, wiring closets, communication circuits, etc would all have to be duplicated to create two separate networks, not to mention the complexity of maintaining two separate networks...it would quickly turn into a nightmare....
In my 20 years of Cisco Routing experience, I’ve seen route maps used maybe 1-2 times..it can be useful but it’s not common to use them....
Routing is done primarily thru static routes which don’t change or a routing protocol like EIGRP, OSPF, BGP, etc....they are dynamic and change automatically depending on events in the network....
The Internet is a prime example, a large internet node could be down for some reason, the routing protocols kick in and automatically reroute data around the area with problems, keeping at least part of the network up and operational...
Think about it, every Cisco Router and Switch I’ve ever worked on had a password recovery procedure to gain access if the passwords are lost for some reason...
If the routers and switches in question are on a different network, what are they doing today or any day when an election isn’t happening ??
If they are sitting idle, the auditors could just go get them, do a password recovery an see what’s in them...it’s not rocket science...
Ah, I think you misunderstood me. I wasn’t saying that is the case in Maricopa County...I was using that as an example of an indication of malfeasance which has been seen in other election related fraud.
I probably wasn’t clear.
The default log size in a cisco router is 4096 bytes, which is about 60 log entries the size of the log file can be increased but even if you quadrupled we’re talking 240 log entries
I think we are saying the same thing, creating log files in memory is not done on a ongoing basis....
The same goes for storing log files in Flash, it’s not done because both memory and flash are limited and used for more important things...
Syslog Servers are where logs exist if they are kept for historical purposes.....
Depending at what level people are logging at, log files can be huge..
Remember the election was approximately 6 months ago those log files if they exist are not on any router.
Routing is done primarily thru static routes which don’t change or a routing protocol like EIGRP, OSPF, BGP, etc....they are dynamic and change automatically depending on events in the network....
If the routers and switches in question are on a different network, what are they doing today or any day when an election isn’t happening ??
But you’re right - this is a side show to the ballot issue.
Here is an important but overlooked crux issue: where is Maricopa County getting the revenues to constantly litigate the State? Presuming the answer, one wonders if all is legal and above board.
Also, if the county is attempting to run out the clock, running it out to when?
If I had money to bet, I would bet the Supervisor of Elections in Maricopa County runs their entire network on the same network as everyone else in Maricopa County...
During elections, precincts in County Buildings they use the county network to communicate, for locations that are not in county buildings, they use a VPN or dialup to stay connected.
In Florida where I vote, my precinct is in a public library, their entire system is online, they print ballots as you check in when your voter status is checked, in a primary you get a different ballot depending on your party which is printed onsite.....the only question is how the results are consolidated in a central database for the countywide results....
Think about it from Dominion’s point of view, they have users all over the country, when a customer calls for support, what would be easier, walking untrained operations people thru commands to correct an issue or using remote access to do it yourself ??
When I worked at a Cisco TAC, it was so much easier to fix network problems by using Telnet or Putty...than walking an untrained person thru how to fix a ISDN BRI/PRI Circuit or Frame Relay Circuit, yes it was a few years ago I supported those technologies...
I’ve sat in my home office and fixed all kinds of network issues all over the Asia Pacific Region for a company I was contracted to....
The entire router issue is one gigantic distraction from the real issues...
The same goes for release new software or patches...
The important point of the Routers are the traffic over them by the voting machines. The election officials have stated that the voting machines are not hooked to the internet. Prove that they were and used to send traffic, then the election officials are proven liars. This causes the whole situation to change, since the election officials lied about a major issue, thus every statement made is now considered untrue unless the election officials prove other wise. They would be on the defense!
I doubt seriously if the routers would show that and we know Dominion people were onsite at the tabulation center for the entire election process besides even if they were accessible from outside vendors who is to say a modem connection wasn’t used
2. If there was nothing to see, then why the delaying tactics?
Other than the configuration that is running on the router the only other software on there is operating system, there are no log files on there....
The routers are the same as the servers that were supposedly running in Germany that special forces supposedly raided, it’s a myth
The only thing that matters is the physical ballots and the machines that counted the votes, if the auditors don’t have the passwords for the vote counting machines that is a real problem.
Maricopa is creating a distraction for you and a ton of other people while they hide and delay in other areas...
Concentrate on issues that matters....
Just THINK for one second, what matters in any election ?? The only thing that counts is who gets the most votes, why are we fighting over the outcome of the election because we think the vote count was corrupted...
If we have the physical ballots and the machines that counted the votes, then we have all we need to figure out if the machines counted accurately....
In Michigan it’s been shown the voting counting machines can be configured to count the vote in different ways and they did it without any information from routers...
I was not aware that LAN routers stored any of the “sensitive information” which passes through them. To my knowledge the only information which routers store is the IP addresses which communicate through them. As such, the Arizona vote routers would not contain any of the sensitive information which Democrat Maricopa County claim as their excuse for not submitting the routers to the judge. The stored IP addresses will reveal who the tabulators were communicating with. And that’s as BIG problem for Dominion. Dominion claims that their voting machines, tabulators and servers do not talk to anyone on the internet outside of Dominion vote gatherers.
Remember the election was 6 months ago, I think there would be zero chance of a router having any meaningful information still active from 6 months ago....
A semantic difference with your post is, there really is no such thing as a LAN router, routers connect networks together, some of those networks could be LANs or WANs to other networks....
Routers generally make routing decisions on networks not individual ip addresses, it’s entirely possible the routers in question are not directly connected to the internet, but route thru a central point in Maricopa County to the internet..
the relevant questions are....can Dominion Employees provide administrative support to Dominion machines over the internet....to me that is probably true, it would make sense they can be supported remotely. If the answer is yes, who had the ability to do that and can you prove during the election that did or did not happen...a router is not going to tell you that..
If the answer is no they can’t be supported remotely, how are they supported locally ??
We know from prior testimony Dominion employees were onsite at the tabulation center....why were they there is something that needs to be understood....
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