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Kentucky Derby winner Medina Spirit returns positive drug test
WLKY ^ | 5/9/21

Posted on 05/09/2021 8:05:25 AM PDT by Meatspace

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To: no-s

How do you determine the body volume of a horse? The only way I can think of is to immerse the horse in water and see how much water is displaced. There would be a significant difference between the horse in an exhaled state vs. the horse in an inhaled state.

A more likely measurement is picograms per liter of blood or picograms per kilogram (mass of the horse).


61 posted on 05/09/2021 9:51:13 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: algore

It doesn’t say picograms per what. Likely a milliliter. Still seemingly trivial, but they account for metabolism.


62 posted on 05/09/2021 9:54:08 AM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: Tallguy
"Question: does suspending the trainer mean the horse can’t run?"

No, to keep Medina Spirit from running, Pimlico and NYRA would have to do what Churchill has done, which is Baffert is 'ruled off' the grounds, meaning he can't even run at Churchill in his assistant trainer's names and his horses must vacate the grounds.

Apparently whoever didn't fly back to SoCal last weekend will be vanned to Pimlico tomorrow with Baffert's Medina Spirit and Concert Tour.

63 posted on 05/09/2021 9:58:42 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems Is The Blue Dress)
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To: Meatspace

This story reminds me of A VIEW TO A KILL...

Max Zorin (Christopher Walken) puts microchips in his horses...During the race, he activates the microchip...The steroid is injected into the horse when that happens...His horse wins the race...Agent 007 (Roger Moore) finds out that secret...

64 posted on 05/09/2021 9:58:43 AM PDT by L.A.Justice
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To: Meatspace

Just because an instrument detects\ dimethyl chicken wire at a quadrillionth part per zillion doesn’t mean it’s actually there.


65 posted on 05/09/2021 10:00:40 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Anti-racism looks suspiciously like racism.)
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To: Gahanna Bob

“Do the exacta winners have to repay their winnings?”

More importantly, do the “losers” get compensation? I know someone would have won thousands with that horse out of the money.

Short answer: no.


66 posted on 05/09/2021 10:01:33 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Just because an instrument detects\ dimethyl chicken wire at a quadrillionth part per zillion doesn’t mean it’s actually there.”

I agree with you...but why does this seem to always happen to the same guy?

I’m willing to believe in the possibility of sabotage. But if so, some very, very wealthy person with signficant logistical resources must really hate him.


67 posted on 05/09/2021 10:05:06 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: Meatspace

Muslim horse?


68 posted on 05/09/2021 10:05:41 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Meatspace

Everyone cheats these days.


69 posted on 05/09/2021 10:12:53 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Meatspace

This is nothing to be laughed at. Poor horse. Inject the owners and jockey and get them addicted.


70 posted on 05/09/2021 10:13:53 AM PDT by bgill
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To: NonValueAdded

This horse was not a front runner.


71 posted on 05/09/2021 10:21:03 AM PDT by Mathews (It's all gravy, baby!)
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To: Meatspace
The horse is owned by a Saudi, Amr Zedan. It's possible that whatever veterinarian tends to the horse that he was given instructions by Zedan to administer the drug without Baffert knowing about it.

Some of those drugs are legal but have to be administered a certain number of days before a race.

"The withdrawal guidelines published by the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission recommend that the medication not be given within 14 days of a race. In this instance, as an additional layer of protection, Gamine's veterinarian last treated her with betamethasone 18 days before the Oaks."

72 posted on 05/09/2021 10:21:22 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: EEGator

but was he ‘matriculating’ at a local communiy college?


73 posted on 05/09/2021 10:23:19 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: StAnDeliver

Thanks. Amazing the things you can learn here.


74 posted on 05/09/2021 10:24:10 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: BiglyCommentary

a picogram is a TRILLIONITH of a gram, a millionith of a microgram, and a billionith of a milligram ...


75 posted on 05/09/2021 10:30:07 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: BiglyCommentary

He should have practiced keeping a safe social distance from the other horses like Secretariat in the 73 Belmont.


I re-watch that race about once/year. Will there ever be such a dominant performance?


76 posted on 05/09/2021 10:50:12 AM PDT by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: Meatspace

Drug tests are racist.

Horses are probably racist, too.


77 posted on 05/09/2021 10:51:43 AM PDT by _longranger81 (God help us, Every One. )
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To: DennisR

Homeopathic treatment?


78 posted on 05/09/2021 11:04:22 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: 11th_VA

Wait! They let monkeys ride in the derby? Wow, that is affirmative action working as proposed. Who knew?


79 posted on 05/09/2021 11:41:56 AM PDT by Fireone (Rush will live in our hearts forever.)
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To: Meatspace
“Horse racing is animated roulette”... Roger Kahn
80 posted on 05/09/2021 11:58:05 AM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground - Mencken)
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