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To: Steve Van Doorn

A) Fauci is an idiot. I really wouldn’t pay much attention to him

B) Without context, I’m going to assume he’s referring to the fact that certain variants (e.g. the Brazil variant P.1) have slight changes in their S protein which make antibodies that were produced against the April 2020 variant or original Wuhan SARS-CoV-2 virus less effective.

Think of the S proteins as little keys that normally fit into the locks on your cell membranes. Antibodies locks that bind to the keys on SARS-CoV-2 virions so they can’t gain access to cells (and also to make it easier for the immune system to clean them up). A slight change to that key means that the antibodies no longer fit quite as well. If you throw enough of them at it, eventually one will “click” into place (i.e. bind), but it takes more chances before it works.

This applies to both the vaccines and the antibodies produced following COVID-19 infection. The city of Manaus had been hit hard by the April 2020 variant of SARS-CoV-2 with something like 70% of the city having been infected. Then the P.1 variant came along and slammed the same city all over again. Why? The antibodies those recovered patients had didn’t quite fit the modified S protein, so they weren’t as effective. There’s an article on it here: https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(21)00183-5/fulltext

It’s worth noting that the levels of antibodies in vaccinated people are very high, like with those who recovered from a severe COVID-19 infection. Those who had a mild or asymptomatic case of COVID-19 have been shown to have much lower levels of antibodies. That’s why the guidance is there to get vaccinated even if you’ve had COVID-19 already: it can provide additional protection against the other variants.

While the change to the S protein can make the antibodies less effective at binding, high enough levels can still provide a lot of protection. So if that vaccine is 95% effective against the April 2020 variant, it might be more like 83% or 87% effective against the Brazil or South Africa or India variants. But that’s still very good.


34 posted on 05/07/2021 10:08:27 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Fauci is an idiot.

Ah you said something that makes sense, So, let’s explore how that happened.

What is it about Fauci that you believes qualifies him as an idiot? This is of course key, because his position has flipped back and forth so many times, that in YOUR case you might very well believe he is an idiot for at times recommending people NOT wear masks, him at times admitting that children DO NOT need the vaccines, etc.

So, be specific, what has Fauci said or done that you disagree with?

35 posted on 05/07/2021 10:23:59 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (I refuse to submit to their psychological warfare, much less their injections.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
said, "A) Fauci is an idiot."
We agree there. Which is amazing. Criminally insane in my opinion.

said, "I really wouldn’t pay much attention to him"
He is leading this fiasco. Ignoring him would be like ignoring Stalin during the gulags

said, "variant or original Wuhan SARS-CoV-2 virus less effective"
no. Not less effective. Our immunity bypasses the virus.
your key analogy was right but misleading. You seem to bypass or skip right over the most important part of your analogy. The "keys" can never work against the variant. This point you have right if you mean natural immunity not keys.
you said, "but it takes more chances before it(natural immunity) works"

Notice from your report the variant wasn't noticed in Brazil until right after the mass vaccinations started late January early February (not stated in your article.)
That is NOT a coincidence.
Dr. vanden Bossche PhD virology was with Bill and Melinda Gates foundation senior program officer. He explains how target specific proteins will block your normal adaptive and innate immunity.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/AhmxNBxmSuuG/

Report by Dr. vanden Bossche
https://fos-sa.org/2021/03/12/open-letter-to-the-who-immediately-halt-all-covid-19-mass-vaccinations-geert-vanden-bossche-dmv-phd/
40 posted on 05/07/2021 12:56:50 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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