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8,430 DEAD 354,177 Injuries: European Database of Adverse Drug Reactions for COVID-19 “Vaccines”
Health Impact News ^ | April 29, 2021 | Brian shilhavy

Posted on 05/02/2021 9:01:16 PM PDT by delta7

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To: Secret Agent Man
The cases need to be examined and determine if those people were otherwise normal healthy folks before the vaccines. As well as what types of deaths these people had, what medical issues they were experiencing that led to them.

Yeah, it would be nice if they did this sort of thing before classifying deaths as being "by COVID" or "with COVID", but hey, let's apply far more rigid standards to classifications of vaccine problems than we do to the virus it is supposedly protecting against.
41 posted on 05/02/2021 10:05:01 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: ifinnegan

I understand populations and aggregates. I was confused about your ask, but clarified in #34.


42 posted on 05/02/2021 10:08:09 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ifinnegan
Have you bothered to look at the charts which track fatalities as a function of #of days since the jab?

Big spike right at the origin, which tends to lean towards causation rather than coincidence. It certainly does not DISprove causation.

But it's awfully funny how the CDC and the clowns gleefully conflated "dying OF Covid" with "dying WITH Covid" pre-vaccine; to include using PCR which was never meant as a diagnostic, together with drastically cutting the number of cycles used for diagnosis, after the jab came out / Biden stole the election. And then they turn around and demand forensic-level evidence for every adverse effect from the jab, and insist "NO evidence" otherwise; not to mention the slow walking of filling in VAERS backlogs like the FBI avoiding Hunter's laptop.

Oh yeah, there's a highly cited MD who's talked about this; he mentioned with prior vaccines, there'd be black box warnings at 5 deaths and the vaccination pulled after 50; but with the coof, thousands of deaths here, and thousands in Europe, still aren't enough.

Ane there are posts claiming to be from board-certified internists claiming they had phoned in adverse events for other experimental agents years ago, and received a call-back within say 2-4 hours; but when they tried to phone in about adverse events with the mRNA jab, they were literally *hung up on*.

Your canned talking points are outmoded.

43 posted on 05/02/2021 10:10:56 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: delta7

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44 posted on 05/02/2021 10:16:14 PM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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To: grey_whiskers

I don’t have any canned talking points and you seem to be inconsistent.

Dying with Covid vs dying of Covid is conflated but you want to do it with dying with vaccine vs dying due to vaccine.


45 posted on 05/02/2021 10:22:57 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: allendale

I agree we shouldn’t be fighting each other. But discussion needs to be had Think of the 5-6% of fully vaccinated people who still end up with severe Covid! What of them? There needs to be more solutions than just vaccines.


46 posted on 05/02/2021 10:24:47 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: delta7

I have great faith in the money hunger of lawyers here in Florida.

I have not seen a single TV commercial soliciting Covid vaccine injury clients.


47 posted on 05/02/2021 10:26:00 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Signalman

True. Plus what is an acceptable number of deaths due to the vaccines? Ten thousand? Twenty thousand? I’m sure the government just decided to roll the dice and hope for the best. Stupidly.


48 posted on 05/02/2021 10:26:15 PM PDT by princeofdarkness ( )
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To: delta7

dropping dead after the vaccine doesn’t mean you dropped dead because of the vaccine— you can’t spend a year poking holes in the weird virus numbers that no one knows how they were compiled (which we all justifiably did), and then lovingly and blindly embrace this fairy tale without being a massive hypocrite.


49 posted on 05/02/2021 10:28:34 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: delta7

the anti-vaccine hysterics are running the same play the COVID hysterics ran for 12 months — OMG, look at this pile of numbers! we’re all going to die!

hypocrites.


50 posted on 05/02/2021 10:30:50 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: ifinnegan
Dying with Covid vs dying of Covid is conflated but you want to do it with dying with vaccine vs dying due to vaccine

Nope. VAERS is supposed to act as a "Distant Early Warning System" to catch things too subtle to have been caught in clinical trials.

But since the coof mRNA jabs

a) are experimental gene therapy (Moderna's FEC filing (Wall Street) says so, about p. 70)

b) were sent to market via "Emergency Use Authorization" for dire emergencies for which no other treatment is available (both prongs are false, btw)

c) the testing (including that reported by a pro-jab FReeper from the New England Journal of Medicine had an effectiveness study on monkeys with 24 total animals. You know as well as I do that that's not even as good as the statistics behind CNN Presidential Polls.

d) the phase-1 trials were both shorter and involved fewer people than normal; I don't remember the numbers at the moment.

...that means, there's the possibility for a LOT to have slipped by.

Given roughly as many deaths (comparably, anyway) have been reported related to the mRNA injections since they started, than for EVERYTHING ELSE COMBINED in VAERS, and given that other treatments get pulled completely over as few as 25 deaths...

e) There's also this:

Quote from article: Dr. Peter McCullough, in a 32-minute interview with journalist Alex Newman, said if this were any other vaccine it would have been pulled from the market by now for safety reasons.

Dr. McCullough holds the honor of being the most cited medical doctor on COVID-19 treatments at the National Library of Medicine, with more than 600 citations. He has testified before Congress and won numerous awards during his distinguished medical career.

(snip to get to the good stuff)

Between Dec. 14 and April 23, there were 3,544 deaths reported to the CDC’s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System [VAERS], along with 12,619 serious injuries.

One might expect these numbers would trigger an exhaustive investigation from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. But the opposite has occurred. According to McCullough, the government has taken what amounts to a passing glance at the alarming numbers and dismissed them with a bare minimum of scrutiny.

“A typical new drug at about five deaths, unexplained deaths, we get a black-box warning, your listeners would see it on TV, saying it may cause death,” McCullough said. “And then at about 50 deaths it’s pulled off the market.”

The U.S. has a precedent for this. In 1976 during the Swine Flu pandemic the U.S. attempted to vaccinate 55 million Americans, but at that point the shot caused about 500 cases of paralysis and 25 deaths. “The program was killed, at 25 deaths,” McCullough said.

Something is fishy here.

51 posted on 05/02/2021 10:38:41 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: JohnBrowdie
the anti-vaccine hysterics are running the same play the COVID hysterics ran for 12 months — OMG, look at this pile of numbers! we’re all going to die!

Not exactly. The COVID hysterics demanded we shut down society over demonstrably false numbers, and never apologized.

Imperial College, self-described as "China's best academic partner in the west," predicted Taiwan, China's oldest adversary, would experience 179,828 COVID deaths if they didn't lock down. Taiwan had no lockdown and had 10 COVID deaths, a 1,798,180% error.https://t.co/l8MlaRw1uH— Michael P Senger (@MichaelPSenger) April 22, 2021

Those opposed to the experimental mRNA injections say, we have these other OTC treatments like HCQ/Zinc or Ivermectin, which should be given as soon as possible after exposure, before the virus has amplified in the body. Other than that, people should return to normal life.

That's the opposite of panic, you know.

52 posted on 05/02/2021 10:41:56 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

“fully vaccinated people who still end up with severe Covid”

People are being told to take painkillers for vaccination related pain which may be partially blocking vaccination immune response.


53 posted on 05/02/2021 10:46:16 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Treeless Branch

Bingo


54 posted on 05/02/2021 10:49:09 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: delta7; Jane Long; ransomnote; SecAmndmt; Secret Agent Man; Jan_Sobieski; bagster; ...
Oh, I will add, all the myriad of debilitating side effects have been deemed “ acceptable “, all for a flu that is 99.8 percent survivable.

And yet any side effects, or after effects, of COVID are completely unacceptable, therefore we need to push this virtually untested, never worked before, treatment onto the populace only after we forbade the use of other treatments which actually worked, which resulted in sacrificing thousands of lives to force the implementation of this so-called vaccine.

The left’s willingness to sacrifice human lives to push an agenda is demonically evil to the core.

55 posted on 05/02/2021 10:56:13 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Brian Griffin

I have not seen a single TV commercial soliciting Covid vaccine injury clients....

That is because the vaccine makers have been given full legal immunity.


56 posted on 05/02/2021 10:58:20 PM PDT by Ceebass (USA RIP 1776-2021)
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To: exDemMom
Second, the average chance of dying from Covid-19 is currently 1.78%. Your chance is higher if you are over age 40. Conditions like heart disease, cancer, obesity, diabetes, etc., increase your chance of dying.

The risk pf death is not 1.78% across all age groups. That’s deliberately misstating the death toll, because it is far lower than that for most age groups and is not that much higher with the comorbidities.

57 posted on 05/02/2021 11:01:30 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Treeless Branch; HollyB
I don’t think Freepers realize any longer what it means to say Welcome to Free Republic. It means the poster to whom it is posted just joined the Free Republic. Isn’t it odd that this pro-vaccine poster just joined FR a few days ago?

Which is not all that unusual. There are others, too. Some of whom are the biggest shills for big pharma this site has ever seen.

58 posted on 05/02/2021 11:04:19 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: ifinnegan

8430 died subsequently. Of how many vaccinated???”??

Regardless of the total number vaccinated, over 8K deaths and counting is a significant number. It’s off the charts when compared to annual fluvax deaths.


59 posted on 05/02/2021 11:05:50 PM PDT by Ceebass (USA RIP 1776-2021)
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To: metmom
Get the vaccine now!


60 posted on 05/02/2021 11:06:30 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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