Posted on 04/29/2021 2:01:06 PM PDT by BenLurkin
https://nypost.com/2020/11/24/moderna-boss-says-covid-shot-not-proven-to-stop-virus-spread/
https://www.mirror.co.uk/science/coronavirus-vaccine-not-stop-people-22881274
Yup
But now they come after you and say you’re lying
Hah! Look at the DATES on those articles! 6 months ago?
Yeah, 6 months ago people weren’t positive. Because they hadn’t checked. They checked since then.
And guess what: the shots block infection. The data from millions of people in the real world proves it.
Nope, they never said that.
What they said was that the Phase 3 clinical trials didn't test whether infection was blocked; merely whether severe symptoms and death were prevented. Real-world data collected since then has demonstrated that infection is blocked.
You guys keep clinging to half-understood statements from over 6 months ago. But the data collected since then demonstrates conclusively - without any doubt - that the COVID-19 vaccines block infection. Game over!
https://khn.org/news/article/the-shock-and-reality-of-catching-covid-after-being-vaccinated/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/04/23/getting-covid-after-vaccine/
All of these prove the vaccine can’t stop you getting covid. Certainly cannot guarantee it. And even now in the recent articles they still couch whether it will reduce severity, thet still say it only “might”, they don’t say it will reduce severity, they say “may”. so again, no hard guarantee it will. It might. And clearly we’ve seen it doesn’t prevent people from getting covid, we have over 10% or so so far they’ve been checking, get it after being vaxxed. 10% is a much higger percentage than the .2% of people that have serious covid cases.
You have a great day now.
For experimental treatment for a disease almost everyone can recover from with their own natural immune system, many people including scientisrs, doctors and nurses are deciding the risk is not worth the supposed benefits.
95% reduction in severe cases. Roughly 100% reduction in COVID-19 death. 94% reduction in risk of asymptomatic infection. 97% reduction in risk of symptomatic infection.
You want these vaccines to fail so badly, but the observable reality just defies your selected narrative at every turn. Pfizer and Moderna have the 6 months of data required to file for full FDA approval. The filing should happen in May. Approvals should come in the summer. Both are showing strong protection continues through at least 6 months. Previous experience says it’ll continue for 1-3 years. The booster shots coming in the fall will improve that even more.
No matter how bad you want the Trump vaccines to fail, they still work. And Americans are beating down the doors to get them. 142 million Americans already. And most haven’t even had access to them until recently. The Trump vaccines have already beaten your narrative just like they’re beating COVID-19.
And there’s nothing you can do to stop it.
You are htsterical andnoffering up strawman arguments now.
I haven’t stopped a single person from taking it.
If they haved decided to take it, thats their decision.
I won’t be and I want to ensure my ability to make my own decisions is not taken away from me and others who do not want to take that risk.
Its zealots on yoyr side that are for it, that are for mandating it onto everyone regardless if they want it or not. Thats a red line for quite a few people.
Always does suck to be her.
Zealots on the other side wants the vaccines banned and the manufacturers shut down. People like Steven Brandenburg (the Wisconsin pharmacist who intentionally ruined more than 500 vaccine doses at Christmas time) don’t want anyone to have a choice.
I do support choice. And I support making that choice in light of all the facts. If somebody sees all the facts and decides they want to wait or decides they don’t want it at all, that’s their decision to make. But nobody should be subjected to fear or misinformation. They have the right to make their decision rationally, based on evidence and their personal medical, moral, ethical, and religious beliefs. When one is subjected to fearmongering or misinformation, the right to make that decision rationally is infringed.
Big deal ... lol. Just the libs and media trying to stir up more drama.
Not true about percentages. Many people in healthcare...frontline docs, etc. are pushing for the vaccine. If you don’t want the vaccine, don’t get it. But stop badgering the people who did choose to get it. Sheesh.
I’ve read articles stating about 50% of healthcare/frontline are refusing to take these shots.
Also, SAM listed facts and points.....I didn’t see any ‘badgering’ in that post.
You have flipped out. You sound like a ver desperate person.
I haven’t “badgered” anyone.
I disagree with people. And I am concerned that people like you on your side are going to force this crap on people who don’t want it, and are putting in place systems to turn people who don’t agree with them into second and third class pariahs, and lose a lot of rights and freedoms. All in the name of benevolent tyranny and “for our own good” or that its our moral duty to society to take a risky experimental trreatment we don’t want.
Not caving into you isn’t “badgering”.
No, it isn’t game over! You are very naive if you believe this is anywhere near being over. Fauci, the CDC, and Democrats are not going to let this go.
BTW, I have no intention of getting this vaccine. Most people are figuring out that even if you do get vaccinated, masks are still required by these tyrants. Again, this is not “game over” by any means!
So hard for any balanced discussion. Would appreciate your thoughts on menstrual irregularities/long term fertility concerns as well as myocarditis in young men who’ve had vaccine.
In terms of risk/benefit analysis for young people. It’s obvious why vaccines are the answer for the especially vulnerable...but for kids?!
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