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Hundreds of jobs available here but ‘we just can’t find people to fill them.’ Employers point to pandemic benefits where ‘folks can make over $16 an hour not working.’
hometownheadlines ^ | April 26, 2021 | Natalie Simms

Posted on 04/26/2021 4:41:52 AM PDT by Prov1322

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To: dforest
People do not want to be forced to wear masks all day. Businesses are becoming nazi like.

Some people get it.

121 posted on 04/26/2021 6:34:29 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: rb22982
But what the government is doing is 25x+ worse than h1b for market distortion - maybe 100x worse.

Deal with it. I did. Or go out of business and learn to code. It's an unfair unjust world so pay to play or quit. Buck up.

122 posted on 04/26/2021 6:35:11 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: albie

Our local MCDonalds has shut down 2 days now due to technical problems.

I think it’s more staffing. The other ruse is our ice cream machine is broken or we just ran out of buns for Egg McMuffins


123 posted on 04/26/2021 6:35:34 AM PDT by patriotspride (Third generation Vet. Never forget the true cost of freedom)
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To: rb22982

I agree with you 100%, and I would cheerfully eliminate H1B visas. The main problem with the labor market (non-IT) at the moment is the government distortion.


124 posted on 04/26/2021 6:36:36 AM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: dinodino
You accused central_va of having no skill, and me of having no job.

With zero evidence.

Typical lying manager.

If the demand for developers is so high, why don't you do what companies used to do? Train them yourself and require them to work for you for two years in return.

Oh, but that would involve financial risk to the company, and the Jack Welch types (together with the glut of the baby boom and the H1-B craze) taught you there'd never be any shortage ever.

Now that you've eaten your seed corn, the only thing you know how to do is insult the very people who could solve your problem.

125 posted on 04/26/2021 6:36:47 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers; Starcitizen

“You accused central_va of having no skill, and me of having no job.
With zero evidence.

Typical lying manager.

If the demand for developers is so high, why don’t you do what companies used to do? Train them yourself and require them to work for you for two years in return.

Oh, but that would involve financial risk to the company, and the Jack Welch types (together with the glut of the baby boom and the H1-B craze) taught you there’d never be any shortage ever.

Now that you’ve eaten your seed corn, the only thing you know how to do is insult the very people who could solve your problem.”

— grey_whiskers


126 posted on 04/26/2021 6:38:28 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

So, if you got another job and kept up to date with technologies over the years and are working as a developer, why are you still whining about losing your job 25 years ago?


127 posted on 04/26/2021 6:38:36 AM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: dinodino
You want the skills, YOU pay for it.

Including training.

A wee bit spoiled, you are.

128 posted on 04/26/2021 6:38:57 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: dinodino
California? Have you noticed the stories of people sleeping in a rental truck's cargo hold in a sleeping bag, because they can't afford housing, even at those salaries?

Have you noticed the outflow FROM California?

Now ask why.

Then ask why, if they're paying six-figure signing bonuses, they can't spring for 1/10 of that for training classes.

Like companies used to do before Jack Welch.

129 posted on 04/26/2021 6:40:57 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: rb22982
The labor market is being massively distorted by the government.

What's your point?

Gasoline prices are massively distorted by the government. Steel prices are massively distorted by the government. Every price is massively distorted by the government, by changes in the markets, by the weather, by disasters.

You deal with it.

Or do you go berate your vendors for not making special deals for you like you want from potential employees?
130 posted on 04/26/2021 6:41:10 AM PDT by chrisser
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To: central_va

My business does not derive sales from teaching advanced mathematics to kids out of high school—there are universities to do that.


131 posted on 04/26/2021 6:42:16 AM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: dinodino
So, if you got another job and kept up to date with technologies over the years and are working as a developer, why are you still whining about losing your job 25 years ago?

Because verminous managers of the sort you appear to be by your postings, arbitrarily changed the rules without warning, and then blamed the victim.

132 posted on 04/26/2021 6:42:59 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

You don’t just “train” someone in mathematics—it’s not like operating a frontend loader.


133 posted on 04/26/2021 6:43:36 AM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: dinodino
So, if you got another job and kept up to date with technologies over the years and are working as a developer, why are you still whining about losing your job 25 years ago?

Are you serious?

Life was good. Mortgage, good job, pregnant wife and all that ended in 1 day. It took 10 years to fully recover from that. Telling my preggers wife I was unemployed killed me. It turned me into a mean SOB when it comes to management and I hate globalists. So fukk you and everyone in management. Fukk off and die.

134 posted on 04/26/2021 6:43:47 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: chrisser
What's your point?

Do you have reading comprehension? I was responding to "It's a free market" - that is not a free market by definition.

Gasoline prices are massively distorted by the government. Steel prices are massively distorted by the government. Every price is massively distorted by the government, by changes in the markets, by the weather, by disasters.

I don't disagree with that, but the solution is not to introduce the biggest distortion in the history of the country that will only lead to inflation, government debt and companies going out of business or shrinking. If this became permanent, it would be a bigger distortion than all other government distortions combined. The only reason *anyone* is still working that makes less than $50k/year (half the country) is people think it will end.

135 posted on 04/26/2021 6:46:16 AM PDT by rb22982 ( )
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To: central_va

You are an idiot


136 posted on 04/26/2021 6:46:38 AM PDT by rb22982 ( )
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To: central_va

I don’t know what made you think I’m a globalist, especially since I stated several times I don’t hire H1Bs and think that visa should be eliminated, but whatever. Some people are able to roll with the punches and some aren’t. I guess you’re in the latter category.


137 posted on 04/26/2021 6:48:08 AM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: dinodino
You don’t just “train” someone in mathematics—it’s not like operating a frontend loader.

You should have thought of that, before you destroyed an entire generation of IT talent.

You ate your own seed corn, you deal with it.

Otherwise, why get rid of so many Americans to hire H1-Bs?

Oh, poor baby. You did everything right, and YOU hire Americans.

Or do you just like to insult people on line to make up for your own incompetence as a businessman?

I'll make you an offer.

YOU take the risk, and pay me a living wage while I learn your technology; in return, I'll work for your company for five (5) years.

Real estate costs are astronomical in CA.

I'll do it in the Midwest, and you scale down the pay from Silicon Valle to account for my lower cost of living.

If you won't do that, why are you expecting other people who have to eat in the meantime, to train themselves on a technology which might suddenly run out of favor, at their own expense, with no income in the meantime, and no prospect of keeping a job or a career, just so YOU can rake in the dough?

138 posted on 04/26/2021 6:52:41 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: central_va; All

Screw you. You want to set wages like Marxist in the USSR. Screw that.
_______

But isn’t that what we are doing by kicking in $600/week for doing nothing? We’ve set the wage at roughly $16 / hour by doing so. I agree with free market principles for wages, but not when the government is setting the minimum wage, unintentionally, at $16 / hour.


139 posted on 04/26/2021 6:52:56 AM PDT by TheRake (If they can force you to wear a mask, they can force you to do other things. Just the beginning.)
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To: dinodino
...why are you still whining about losing your job 25 years ago?

Because the H1-B threat is on-going at every level of the software trade. Corporate executives continue to press for importing millions of 3rd-world immigrants under indenture contracts which permit them no recourse in our political system. They know very well what they are doing.

This lowers incomes and degrades working conditions for the natives every time. From the executive viewpoint, that is a feature, not a bug. It is all about power to control other people.

The comment from "central_va" about a "typical lying manager" is spot on.

140 posted on 04/26/2021 6:53:31 AM PDT by flamberge
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