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Pfizer’s experimental mRNA vaccine takes out famous CNN legal analyst [Midwin Charles, 47] who celebrated the jab
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/ ^ | April 14, 2021 | Lance D Johnson

Posted on 04/14/2021 6:10:50 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin

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To: David Chase; bagster; Jane Long
Before I get started in replying......you are a very challenging person to debate.
So I think I will lend my bit of knowledge rather than deny your statements/facts as you see them, with my own statements/facts as I see them.

You mean you changed the subject because you are unable to refute me. This is a common response I get from your kind. Then they try to make it all about them.

You may or may not know I have decades of experience in EMS in the City of Detroit and I took part-time gigs in the suburbs during my off days.
We worked 24 on and 24 hours off.......until the Union screwed that up and thought we liked 18 hour shifts but our pay from over-time dropped.....but I digress.

This isn't about you.

You pointedly ignore the researchers, physicians, vaccine industry experts (and CNA's) and peer reviewed reserach I quote, only to tell me you were an EMS. 

I was a Westside medic.......in the day, the Westside of Detroit had the worse to offer. The most of everything.
There were suppose to be 11 units on duty at all times. 3 of those trucks were Advanced Life Support. The other 8 units were Basic Life Support.
I was an ALS unit.

When you work EMS in a large city like Detroit, Chicago, L.A., Miami, you often work with the Police, Fire Dept. (Detroit EMS is considered a division of Detroit Fire) and the Medical Examiner’s Office.

*yawn*

I assure you, people die everyday that seemed healthy.

No kidding, Sherlock. Did you ever notice in your years of service that there was a coorelation between overall health and abruptly dropping dead from anaphylaxis following injection and symptoms of anaphylaxis at the injection site? 

You are playing boring games. I never said people that seemed healthy never die, or can't die. I've poured through countless records of observed, drastic change/death following vaccination, but even before then, I had the capacity to correctly evaluate and note as abnormal, circumstances that are abnormal.

Since you're an EMS, you probably don't know that science is based on observation. People make observations and from them, deduce paths of inquiry.

Your kind keep acting like there's something abnormal about noticing the curious number of people dying abruptly after being pressured into accepting a politicized unnecessary, insufficiently tested misnamed 'product' rushed to marked based on toxic technology that has never worked before

People die young from what most would consider an older person’s disease or event.
People die in all age groups from CVAs (strokes) and AMIs (heart attacks.)

Again, the ridiculous condescension. You don't have to be an EMS to know this. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that the public is being lied to, manipulated and harmed by the weaponized vaccine industry.

Before Covid, people have died unexpectedly.

Oh, get over yourself! You're pompously stating the obvious as if David Attenbourouh wishes he were you. I have no deficits in my comprehension of life and death - I object to the lies and distortions about documented risks and unacceptable number of deaths mirroring those risks all attached to the fake 'vaccines'.

Speaking for Detroit only, when someone calls to report a body in an alley or vacant abandon house, EMS is sent.

Sometimes we were dispatched to “check the welfare” of a friend, grandparent, or anyone who hasn’t been heard from for a while or didn’t answer their phone. Whatever the case.

If we found a person deceased, we would have to call the “Meat Wagon”, AKA Coroner.
Over the course of many years we have located/discovered many people dead.

Your information is unrelated to the documented risks I've posted about vaccines, but then you knew that.

With most trauma we can see the visible cause of death. As you can imagine.

Why should I? We're not talking about trauma death.

With decease, it’s nearly impossible to determine the cause of death just by looking at the body.

So if someone died of a heart attack or stroke or anaphylaxis, the Medical Examiner on scene can’t rule the cause of death, neither can I or my partner.
An autopsy is required. In fact, even if the cause of death is obvious, let’s say a GSW to the head, an Autopsy is still required.

I have repeatedly explained that your kind are abusing the 'causal' argument to demand that observational data be ignored (e.g., she was fine until she was vaccinated) and instead wait for 10+ years of research to be completed, and in the meantime, knowingly let people die from the documented risks of mRNA vaccines.

Anaphylactic shock is a very real adverse reaction to the Covid vaccines........however ALL vaccines have a risk of the patient being allergic and having an adverse reaction.

The mRNA's are not vaccines. But being falsely declared vaccines means they don't have to test on co-morbidities. Worse still, the fake vaccines only have an EUA so for a fake vaccine, they are insufficiently tested. 

Pfizer uses a chemical (PEG) known to cause anaphylaxis in many. Tests are available to determine if a person is allergic to PEG. Why aren't people tested first?

Considerations like age, diabetes, cancer, pregnancy are ignored but then whent he person dies, they are used as excuses: "well he was almost 80 years old!" "Oh, but she had cancer, so..." "Well, you know pregnancies do sometimes end in spontaneous abortion" "Yeah, well diabetes can do that to a person..."

They could test for sensitivity to PEG but they don't. Then the pesron dies from anaphylaxis and your kind come along to say, "Tsk tsk tsk....anaphylaxis happens sometimes..."

Why aren't people being warned? Instead their deaths are being excused.

I never said that the Covid-19 vaccines were the only ones with risk. I said they a) aren't vaccines b) are insufficiently tested c) never worked in 16 years of trying d) have documented risks of ADE e) are being pushed on the public, including pregnant women, while all risks or negative commentary are suppressed f) are part of coercive tactics to get people to allow themselves to be experimented on, contrary to the principles of the Nuremberg Code of 1947.

If I had to list the causes of Anaphylactic shock in order of the most to the least that I personally responded to, it would be easy:

#1 Bee Stings.
#2 Food, usually seafood, nuts, dairy.
#3 Medications
#4 Unknown

I could have made the same list and I'm not an EMS. I wouldn't offer such a list because it isn't relevant. The public is being strong armed into accepting a vaccine in exchange for the pretense of freedom. But, as you said, you find me challenging to debate, so you had to throw chaff and mislead.

Now on to the CNA and his video...........as I know you are well aware that I could make a video and seem sincere and traumatized and start posting it to see if it got traction.

I do believe someone as amoral as you could make a video behaving like you're traumatized that not enough people ar getting the fake vaccines, but I doubt you could make it seem sincere.

I say doctors, researchers, and vaccine experts are cautioning people about the well-known, research-based hazards of the 'shots', and that all are pointing to the fact that other risks are yet unkonwn.

You think that a CNA/chaplain put his name and his face on film in a way likely to get him fired just to pretend to be traumatized by the horrific lapse in humanity he's witnessing, which just happens to be compatible with research (ADE) and expert warnings, and the records I've reviewed in VAERS.

The research has been present since 2005, when all trial animals (cats) developed anti-bodies in response to the mRNA technology, but all died when exposed to the actual virus.

All the scraps of information we're able to snatch before it's purged supports 16 years of research documenting the failures of the fake vaccines. Along comes a CNA of conscience, and you claim he's faking it. You are the real 'conspiracy theorists.'

I actually thought of doing just that and after a short time revealing it was a hoax. (On a different subject matter however).

No normal person would contemplate that. But, those in your line of work have it on their resume.

I have always been amazed and curious when I would see people in your group on a certain thread investigate every frame, inch, background, wall decor and people associated with a video. Ashli Babbit comes to mind, Joe Biden comes to mind.

Yet, a video made by someone no one knows, is suppose to be accepted without any verification?

He gives his name. His FACE IS ON FILM. His account matches what I've heard doctors, nurses, vaccine experts and researchers say, as well as being supported by about 15 years of research. He put his jface/name/ob on the line to save lives, as have Vanden Bossche, Dr. Yeadon and many others.

No investigation, no one tried finding out if it was true, none of the regular “detectives” picked it apart. I wonder why?

He is not anonymous and he likely lost his job or is soon to lose it for having made that video.

As to "no one tried finding out if it was true" I have submerged myself in studying the PCR, VAERS, the platform mRNA research, the trials for Moderna and Pfizer, and related research.

Did you know the mRNA risk of ADE was passed to offsrping in pig trials? You'd think they'd mention that to the public (e.g., pregnant women), am I RIGHT? The CDC doesn't mention it. In fact, I'm the first one I' aware of to put it in print in the current context.

I've watched/read information from doctors, researchers and industry experts - that's how I know you're lying. I didn't base my opinion on fake vaccines on an 'unknown person in a video.' I am grateful at the sacrifice of that man, and others who risk their jobs to tell the public the truth.

I don’t sneer at death......I spent most of life fighting death.

You sneer at deaths related to hazardous materials being falsely portrayed as 'vaccines', and heap contempt on those who speak up, for example I offer your patronizing explanation that 'people die' and you've seen it etc.

Finally........in an odd twist, you have a very valid point regarding Laws. I actually share your distrust of Government. I mean, hell, they’ve earned it.

But I don’t think every single person except for people who are against the present Covid vaccines are involved in a cover up.

I never said 'every single person..."  is involved in  a cover up. Why waste my time?

I say the leadership of the medical community has been captured by China, leadership at agencies like CDC etc. We know Biden's administration is bought and paid for by China. This is the China virus and the China 'vaccine' we're talking about. 

Some unknown senior citizen dies after getting a vaccine in some remote or even populated place somewhere in America.......I don’t believe that every medic is in on a cover up. I don’t believe every Medical Examiner is a part of the deep conspiracy.

The M.E.s I knew would sound a trumpet type alarm if someone wanted a falsified death certificate.

Really tedious argument you have here. Part of the ol' 'causal' argument. EMS/ME's can only report heart attacks/strokes. It would take years of advanced research to document even a few of the mechanisms (unless China give it to us) CAUSESING the deaths we are witnessing) by which the vaccines are harming people.

VAERS has enough disturbing evidence in it already, research indicates that the actual number events occurring (but not reported) is likely 30 to 60 times higher. Covid-19 already has the majority of deaths reported in VAERS after a few months, compared with 10 years of vaccines, and at last count VAERS was so far behind enterring records for adverse events for Covid that only 25% or less of reported events is in the database.

The whole stupid 'death certificate' argument is obviously a distraction tactic - you know the coroner isn't going to be able to document, with research, the domino effects of death-by-mRNA technology after an autopsy. 

Keep in mind, when mask were first introduced and mandates began......I saw accounts of people saying they knew folks that dropped dead from wearing a mask. I watch videos of people saying their friend, spouse, cousin died due to mask wearing.

Did they post about the 16 years of research, experts like physicians, researchers, industry insiders with decades of acknowledged accomplishment, who supported their observations?

Did they provide recent research documenting that the public is being decieved and should have been warned about the masks, as this research says about the "sufficiently obscurred" risks involved in the faux-vax products?

 <https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33113270/>

Post after post of how the mask was killing us because it wasn’t allowing air in. (Yet surgeons perform surgeries for hours and hours wearing a mask)

Perhaps that’s why I’m cautious of random videos posted by unknown people regarding a presently debated hot topic.

There is research showing that masks are bad for health and don't work. That's another topic which you are attempting to distort so I won't write more about it here.

The fact that some other people posting about some other topic had personal accounts you dispute has no bearing on our discussion.

I went long. Wasn’t suppose to though.
Have a great day.

The reason you find me challenging to debate is because I'm the one  telling the truth based on valid data.

161 posted on 04/15/2021 1:38:22 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote; David Chase

Chase, you just got tolt.

You seem as a child amongst giants, with your feeble blabberings.

This is what comes when the self-important meet the truly important.

Your mind is outmatched, EMT boi.


162 posted on 04/15/2021 1:57:39 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: humblegunner
You should probably not get any of them then.

I won't.

Doesn’t that that close the case?

No, and why should it?

I understand that you don't give a damn about your fellow man, innocents, your country, and the future of mankind, but don't expect us all to share your indifference.

Some of us do give a damn.


164 posted on 04/15/2021 2:05:29 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: ransomnote

I’m curious who did the chinee transcribing/cut and paste for that n00b “medical professional”.... they need to use a different font, or source, for that bot to post, here.

All gobbledygook symbols. Could be a *virus* being downloaded 🤔


165 posted on 04/15/2021 2:27:54 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Jane Long; ransomnote; David Chase
All gobbledygook symbols. Could be a *virus* being downloaded

Nukka needs to take a vax.

Was that the best takedown EVAH, or what?

Troll-bot should consider himself fortunate that Ransomnote bothered with his minion ass at all, you ask me. I'm not sure if I would rush to argue with her, and I'm the best arguer on the earth.

It is an honor to feel the full wrath of the Mother of Dragons like that. Usually she is much more dismissive of mediocrity.


166 posted on 04/15/2021 2:54:26 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

Who is that dude?
Young Hitler?
Hitler’s gay cousin Rudolph?
Hitler’s barber Moustachio De Puto?

Get a grip, dude. Them adrenochromes are messing with your mind.


167 posted on 04/15/2021 3:00:15 PM PDT by humblegunner (Balls To Picasso.)
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To: Jane Long
". . . experimental, unproven...and, even deadly agent."

I would say that 78,498,290 fully vaccinated Americans with very few adverse effects--according to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System--have proven them beyond experimental and make them fully tested vaccines:

"Among the 0.05% of recipients who reported adverse symptoms after COVID-19 vaccination, headaches were the most common."

And,

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has also released reporting using more recent VAERS data not yet available to the public. The data as of March 8 — by which point over 92 million doses had been administered — includes 1,637 reports of death following vaccination. After review, the CDC concluded that there was no evidence linking any of those deaths to the COVID-19 vaccines."

So, why are you anti-vaxxerss trying to scare people from doing the right thing to eliminate the virus? You remind me of people telling the crews of the the Niña, Pinta, and Santa Maria that they will fall off the edge of the Earth!

168 posted on 04/15/2021 3:40:32 PM PDT by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: jonrick46

Well, Jon...the FACT remains, that these experimental shots are being given under the EUA Act....Emergency Use Authorization....which means they have NOT passed the rigorous testing standards, that real vaccines normally do, before being given out to the masses.

As far as so many millions having been vax’d....with ‘very few’ adverse effects...that is a matter of opinion. Ask the families of those who’ve suffered serious side effects and/or death, if they consider the (likely suppressed) numbers ‘very few’.

Also....as we’ve learned from doctors and virologists who’ve sounded the alarms on these experimental shots....the effects could happen months, to years, down the road....with these mNRA agents.

And, why are you Vax Preachers™ in line on labeling anyone who questions the safety, efficacy or ANYTHING adverse about these agents, so quick to call that person an ‘anti-vaxxer’, or ‘conspiracy theorist’? (A few, here, have used the EXACT same phrase that FRAUDci did, against Tucker.) I’m not an anti-vaxxer. I’ve had dozens of vaccines, in my lifetime...as have my family members.

I’m not anti-vax.....I am against this overwhelming promotion, by gov’t and Gates’ funded groups, of these non-typical, experimental “vax” agents.

Has there ever been such a hard sell for something that is 99% survivable, before? No, NEVER. A destroyed economy (that was one of best ever, if not THE best), facist lockdowns, a stolen election....all for something 99% survivable. A sickening, historical shame.

And, like another Vax Preacher™ you try to invoke a straw man (or, ship :) to make your weak point. At least you didn’t invoke The Apostles, like another VP™ did.

(Again....sorry about your dad. I’m sure your mom was horrified.)


169 posted on 04/15/2021 4:05:37 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Jane Long

You can read this for why I call them anti-vaxxers Flat Earthers:

Dismantling the anti-vaxx industry

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01260-6

Just one more thing that raises red flags about those anti-vaxxers: They scare people when they say, “the effects could happen months, to years, down the road....with these mNRA agents.” Such is theory that cannot happen and it destroys their credibility completely. It is part of the same long list of false claims they have been making. Yes, I’m painting them with a broad brush. All of them lack the access to laboratory resources to test their theories. Such activists as Judy Mikovits were fired for their false research. Robert F. Kennedy Jr is another antivaxx huckster that gets my broad brush out. A recent ex vice president of Pfizer,Michael Yeadon, who Britain’s Department of Health & Social Care characterized his claims as “These claims are false, dangerous and deeply irresponsible.” No! Pfiser’s vaccine “does not cause infertility in women.” From fellow scientist, Mark Treherne,“This does not sound like the guy I knew 20 years ago.” And it is amazing that people still believe Dr. Andrew Wakefield’s claims that vaccines caused autism spectrum disorder (I asked Temple Grandin about that claim and she denounced it).

With my knowledge of how the virus works, the mRNA vaccines mimics the same process the virus uses to hijack the host cell ribosomes in the translation process for reproduction. So, if the C-virus is using that same process, will effects “happen months, to years, down the road?” And, the C-virus uses the same mechanism as any other virus.

So, what is the fear about the Messenger RNA technology? Do you realize that the recent scientific breakthrough in this technology is on the same level as the how technology from the space race with the Soviet Union created integrated circuits—computer chips? In this case we now have a pathway to treat cystic fibrosis, heart disease, rare genetic conditions, more effective vaccines and . . . Cancer! By the way, my dad died from cancer and my mom is living strong at 96 years-old.


170 posted on 04/15/2021 8:37:17 PM PDT by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: DannyTN

Pretty Lady. Sad ending, even for a liberal.


171 posted on 04/15/2021 8:40:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: jonrick46
You can read this for why I call them anti-vaxxers Flat Earthers:

That is o.k. us anti vaxxers are still walking around. That is more than I can say for Hank Aaron, Marvin Hagler, and Midwin Charles, etal. Keep laughing . I don't think Hank and Marvin are laughing so loud now.

172 posted on 04/15/2021 8:51:06 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport

Red flags are a flying! The Fulton County Medical Examiner’s office said that Aaron died of natural causes.

Peter Hotez, a professor of pediatrics and molecular biology and dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at the Baylor College of Medicine said, “I’m terribly sad about the loss of Hank Aaron, one of my important childhood heroes. In the meantime I’m getting ready for the backlash from those who will try to exploit this and attempt to attribute his death to a #covid vaccination. This is the “modus operandi” of anti-vaxxers. They’re opportunists. They’ll try to glom on to anything they can. They also specifically try to target African Americans with their messages. So this kind of was two birds with one stone for them.”


173 posted on 04/15/2021 9:21:20 PM PDT by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: ransomnote; bagster

Outstanding post

“Pfizer uses a chemical (PEG) known to cause anaphylaxis in many. Tests are available to determine if a person is allergic to PEG. Why aren’t people tested first?

Considerations like age, diabetes, cancer, pregnancy are ignored but then whent he person dies, they are used as excuses: “well he was almost 80 years old!” “Oh, but she had cancer, so...”

Interesting point. I fought the vaccine issue in Family Court, related to child custody some years back. At the time, I had had the opportunity to speak with a prominent vaccine injury MD, a woman who had written a book on vax and who currently runs a vaccine injury clinic in LA (she has a one year backlog for treatment!). She had ordered the MTHFR test and urine organic acid test for my youngest, and sent me a report once the results were available. The urine test revealed some information which suggested that at minimum, some dietary intervention be done before the child received any vax. Imagine my child’s pediatrician’s reaction when the report was sent to him certified with a cover letter from me. He denied anything and everything in the report, and stood by the one-size-fits-all policy for vax. Thankfully I was an engaged and informed parent, because what the pediatrician was advocating could NOT be considered real medicine.

Right now there is a bill in the TX legislature to force MDs and nurses to review risks of each vaccine with parents at each child well-visit. Predictably, conventional medical authorities are strongly opposed.

I have next to zero respect for medical practitioners who are just fine mindlessly following CDC policy, and keeping parents (or in this case, the cv19vax recipients) in the dark. Now we have people in these cv19 threads advocating vax without consent. We can only hope some of them get to come personally face to face with those of us who are standing firm. I don’t think that they would find the experience positive...


174 posted on 04/15/2021 9:55:53 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: jonrick46

It does not surprise me what they say. It only surprises me if anyone believes them.


175 posted on 04/15/2021 9:58:32 PM PDT by sport
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To: SecAmndmt
Right now there is a bill in the TX legislature to force MDs and nurses to review risks of each vaccine with parents at each child well-visit.

How can I find out more info on that?

TIA.
176 posted on 04/15/2021 10:07:12 PM PDT by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: jy8z

“How can I find out more info on that?”

If you’re in favor, I will look...


177 posted on 04/15/2021 10:09:54 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: sport
It does not surprise me what they say. It only surprises me if anyone believes them.

You're talking about the vaxxer clones, right?

I agree.


178 posted on 04/15/2021 10:51:51 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

Yep.


179 posted on 04/16/2021 6:22:21 AM PDT by sport
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To: sport

Report: University of Cincinnati student’s death after J&J vaccine under investigation

https://www.fox19.com/2021/04/15/report-university-cincinnati-students-death-after-jj-vaccine-under-investigation/


180 posted on 04/16/2021 6:23:18 AM PDT by chuck allen
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