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Maybe all laws need to go to trial first.
1 posted on 04/13/2021 4:57:43 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Why is this trial happening?

The US Supreme Court upheld the use of voter ID years ago. Since the liberals would call such a decision settled law, how can we still be having litigation over an issue which the Supreme Court has ruled on?


2 posted on 04/13/2021 5:01:50 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Libloather
"Is voter ID unconstitutional?"

No. But seriously asking the question defines the questioner as an idiot.

3 posted on 04/13/2021 5:04:55 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Libloather

They will rule 2 weeks before the election that it is unconstitutional. Then 6 months after the election, the SCOTUS will say it is. But the damage will already have been done. It’s happened like that over and over again.


4 posted on 04/13/2021 5:05:14 PM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths. )
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To: Libloather

If they rule it is than so is NICS and the ATF.


6 posted on 04/13/2021 5:08:24 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING !)
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To: Libloather
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7 posted on 04/13/2021 5:21:52 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Hamilton)
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To: Libloather

The ONLY PEOPLE who are against Voter ID, which is used in literally EVERY other country that has fair elections are people who understand what is being done ‘behind the scenes’. That’s why most blacks, Democrats, and others agree with Voter ID - it makes sense to them and since they’re not in on the cheating, so they don’t see a downside to it.

The moment that the Democrats stated they were against Voter ID, they should have been DISQUALIFIED from engaging in the political process, because, obviously, they don’t believe in it. This ‘issue’ isn’t even debated in other countries and they think we’re out of our minds in not having it embedded into law here.


8 posted on 04/13/2021 5:22:32 PM PDT by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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To: Libloather

Verifying your Identity to vote is not unConstitutional in any way.


9 posted on 04/13/2021 5:22:53 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: Libloather

State or federal constitution? If it won’t work at the state level, change the constitution or law. Or require drivers’ licenses or other state IDs and voter registrations.


10 posted on 04/13/2021 5:25:47 PM PDT by familyop (Only here for the tales from the rubber room.)
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To: Libloather

The Supreme Court has already ruled that it is constitutional.


14 posted on 04/13/2021 5:40:12 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Libloather

And they are disproportionately Black ... They are voters that face barriers to voting already. And they are voters who were targeted by previous laws, and this law, in an attempt to keep Black North Carolinians from voting.”

Pretty simple.....first ask the Lt Governor, being a black man, to testify on how hard it’s been for him to vote all his life. Then you can have Ami Horowitz to play his street interviews in Brooklyn and Harlem and explain how the liberal white hipsters basically say that blacks are completely incapable of getting an ID, knowing where the DMV is and whether or not they have data plans on their phones and can get on the internet.

Northern liberals and hipsters in Charlotte and the Research Triangle have destroyed that state.

I really wish there was a serious secession movement. Allow those who want in, in. Down to the county level. Watch Mecklenburg, Durham, Chapel Hill devolve into desperate, starving islands of liberalism. And it’d be awesome to watch them eat each other.


15 posted on 04/13/2021 5:41:01 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: Libloather

If voter ID is deemed “Unconstitutional” then showing ID to purchase firearms is unconstitutional.
Just using their own methods against them.
Wish someone could submit friend of the court brief saying that.
Watch their eyes light up.


18 posted on 04/13/2021 5:49:44 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Libloather

Lack of it is unconstitutional. The ‘various states’ are expected to use ‘reasonable care’ when conducting elections, and that includes identity verification using state-of-the art methods. It’s their goddam job for crying out loud.


19 posted on 04/13/2021 5:53:07 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Libloather
Regarding constitutionality, the only elections for federal office that were mandated by the Constitution at the time of its ratification were the elections for the House of Representatives.

Senators were selected by their state legislatures, and the legislatures selected the method of choosing Electors to the Electoral College.

After the Civil War, the 14th amendment section 2 required that if "the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced..."

This means that the Constitution required states to prove both that: 1) the people who voted were citizens (whose votes were not abridged by non-citizen voting), and 2) that no citizens were denied the right to vote.

The only way to prove the above is to have the voters produce proof of citizenship.

Note that elections for Senators didn't begin for another 50 years, so they weren't included in the 14th amendment. This could be a loophole, because Senate elections would not be impacted by the 14th amendment's section 2 since the Senate is not a proportional representation body. A devious person might argue that the 14th amendment's silence on the Senate suggests that voting in elections for Senators can be open to anyone, not just citizens.

-PJ

22 posted on 04/13/2021 6:08:47 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: kalee

for later


25 posted on 04/13/2021 6:34:28 PM PDT by kalee
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To: Libloather

Hilariously biased article. Par for the course.


27 posted on 04/13/2021 7:07:51 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Libloather

We need to go back to Property Owners only voting...


32 posted on 04/14/2021 12:09:14 AM PDT by Bikkuri (If you're conservative, you're an "extremist." If you're liberal, you're an "activist.")
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To: Libloather

You need an ID to:
Get a library card
Open a bank account
Get a credit card
Get health insurance
Stay at any hotel
Rent a car
Buy a car
Buy a home

There is only one reason voter ID is opposed.
Voter fraud


33 posted on 04/14/2021 4:36:39 AM PDT by Zathras
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