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Yes people have breakthrough infection. The actual efficacy is 95%. Well, lo and behold there is some small rate of breakthrough, of which none are dying. But nice try. The nun story you let know had some problems with the vaccine storage and delivery.
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A dishonest apologist like you is pretending that vaccinated people in Israel being 8 times more susceptible to a ‘variant’ of Covid compared with non-vaccinated proves ‘breakthrough”.
If storage and delivery had failed, and the vax was deactivated, most of those nuns would still be alive.
And the OP for this thread is about a complete quack. If this were accurate, dont you think that there would be an awful lot of deaths in the Phase 1 2 and 3 groups who were vaccinated since SPRING 2020?
Just asking.
“...A dishonest apologist like you is pretending that vaccinated people in Israel being 8 times more susceptible to a ‘variant’ of Covid compared with non-vaccinated proves ‘breakthrough”....”
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You are COMPLETELY misrepresents what the Israeli study looked at and what it found. Apparently, MATH IS HARD for some of our Agendanista anti-vaxxers. Following is my summary of the study:
The folks who conducted the study picked 400 UNVACCINATED people who TESTED positive for COVID-19. They may or may not have been symptomatic. Of these 400 COVID-19 “cases”, 0.7% (probably 3 cases) were of the South African variant and 99.3% (probably 397 case) were of other COVID-19 variants as determined by molecular testing. These 400 cases represent the “control” and should roughly show the size of the South African variant circulating in Israel as a percentage of COVID-19 cases. As the “control” population of 400 COVID-19 infected people UNAFFECTED BY PRIOR VACCINATION it will be what is used to “measure” how effective the vaccine is for both South African and non South African variants. If the vaccine is equally effective against both variants we’d expect to see similar breakdown (i.e., 99.3% and 0.7%) in the vaccinated group below.
The folks who conducted the study ALSO picked 400 VACCINATED (not necessarily fully vaccinated with 2 shots) people who also had TESTED positive for COVID-19 subsequent to their vaccination. They also may or may not have been symptomatic. Of this 2nd group of 400 COVID-19 “cases”, 5.4% (probably 22 cases) were of the South African variant and 94.6% (probably 378 case) were of other COVID-19 variants. This study (well designed, IMHO) has results that CLEARLY show that the South African variant is clearly much more likely to “breakthrough” than are the non South African variants. THAT’S ALL IT SHOWS AND THAT WAS WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO LOOK FOR. It certainly does not show you’re more likely to get infected by the South African variant if you’re vaccinated than if you were NOT vaccinated as some of the MATH CHALLENGED are alleging.
I apologize for any misspellings, grammatical mistakes or lack of clarity that may exist in the above.