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Currently Hesitant to Take the Vaccin
Chit Chat | 4/10/21 | Vanity

Posted on 04/10/2021 10:47:38 AM PDT by week 71

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To: monkeyshine

Indeed. I need a proverbial shower just thinking about how asinine our national response has been. Again, if it was a worldwide emergency that needed immediate action they should have been testing everything that could be reasonably considered a treatment. But they did the opposite. And worse than that, they intentionally put out very bad studies which seemed to me to be an effort to cast a pall over the idea that some combination of readily available generic medicines might be very useful. For example a few doctors were finding success with HCQ+ and told the world how to administer it and when (early upon diagnoses or first symptoms). And instead of running with that, others did trials using just HCQ (without the vitamins and minerals and antibiotics that the doctors were using) and gave it to very sick ICU patients and said “see, it doesn’t work”.

That’s not science. Science is repeating the exact same methods and exact same controls to prove and predict the outcome to some high degree of confidence. That is why the FDA normally requires all new drugs to go through multiple randomized clinical trials. Usually two Phase 3 trials, which come after multiple Phase I and Phase II trials. They are usually very highly controlled to repeat results - they can’t just change the protocols at whim and call it “science”.

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Agreed. When reading the Pfizer trial information, or trying to read it, it looks like they’ve redefined the concept of trial completely, partly to conceal that we’re probably now in the start of their phase III trial now.

PubMed Central, : Drugs. 2021 Mar 8 : 1–7. doi: 10.1007/s40265-021-01480-7 [Epub ahead of print] (nih.gov)

Images don’t define when Phase II ends and Phase III begins. Intentionally. That’s why they blend Phase I, II, III.

Phase III ends either in October of 2021, or January 2023. It really look like we the people are phase III

I think the image is copyrighted so I’ll just link it.
https://i.imgur.com/CiarVXB.png


121 posted on 04/10/2021 3:39:55 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: week 71

Let’s see, oh, less than a few percent chance of dying (about the same a the normal flu every year) vs taken an largely untested, mRNA vaccine that was rushed to market, and given an FDA emergency approval without safety and efficacy testing?

I think I will pass.


122 posted on 04/10/2021 3:46:02 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain

Agree. Any feedback on the two scientists mentioned in the poorly titled post (my fault)?


123 posted on 04/10/2021 3:58:51 PM PDT by week 71
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To: week 71

This was in my e-mail today. https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/new-world-order-covid-19-vaccine-mark-of-beast-vaccination-passport-implantable-biometric-identification/


124 posted on 04/10/2021 4:02:16 PM PDT by Maudeen (https://www.ThereIsHopeInJesus.com/ https://www.patburt.com)
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To: ransomnote

You’d have to look up those trial numbers at clinicaltrials.gov to see what they are about.

Study to Describe the Safety, Tolerability, Immunogenicity, and Efficacy of RNA Vaccine Candidates Against COVID-19 in Healthy Individuals
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728?term=04368728&draw=2&rank=1

A Trial Investigating the Safety and Effects of Four BNT162 Vaccines Against COVID-2019 in Healthy and Immunocompromised Adults
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04380701?term=04380701&draw=2&rank=1


125 posted on 04/10/2021 4:04:35 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: week 71

Far too many evil people are frantic to get everyone to take these “vaccines”? Why? What’s in them that we’ll find out about soon and will stop taking them?


126 posted on 04/10/2021 4:05:56 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: week 71

I had king flu. It was a bad chest cold for me. A week of rest and it went away. I am not getting the vaccine. When there is a worldwide propaganda campaign for anything O run the other way. Especially when people who have me, the democrats and progressives, are begging me to take it. No thanks.


127 posted on 04/10/2021 4:09:33 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: Yo-Yo

I am so sorry for your loss


128 posted on 04/10/2021 4:11:13 PM PDT by Osagegirl
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To: diplomatic_immunity

I work in a health care facility. There is a group of us NOT taking the vaccine. One woman said she would pull her kids out of school if it was required. Everyday I get emails “reminding” me I have a vaccine available. Just delete it.


129 posted on 04/10/2021 4:14:45 PM PDT by Osagegirl
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To: monkeyshine

@ 125 Hello monkeyshine. I cannot be sure if you are a ‘poser’ or not, but truly appreciate your input in the conversation and would contend your freeper voice on this thread is one to consider. Could you be kind enough to interpret briefly those links for laymen? I am familiar with abstracts and sundry scientific papers, but having a hard time with those.


130 posted on 04/10/2021 4:21:54 PM PDT by week 71
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To: Maudeen

Power, control, and $$$$$. Especially $$$$$. (The LOVE of money is the root of ALL evil.)


131 posted on 04/10/2021 4:22:13 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: Kickass Conservative

“Having Leukemia I am very hesitant in taking the Vaccine.”

We are in the same boat. I have lymphoma. I can save you the trouble of asking your onc. He will tell you to take it. I go to the #1 cancer hospital in the country and see a top doc there. Plus I have a local onc He also says to take it.

I totally disagree with the docs! I have not taken it and probably will not. If I take it at all it will be at least another year when better facts are known about the outcome.

Anyway, why take the vaccine when only about 9% of the population contract the disease and the death rate is .1%?

Finally, none of the docs will volunteer to tell you unless you ask them, “will I gain protection from vaccination.” As a fellow blood cancer patient and someone with a compromised immune system, the answer to that question is likely NO. If you have a compromised immune system, the efficacy of the virus is almost zero.

We still have much more to learn about this vaccine. Why put our remission at risk for such a low chance?


132 posted on 04/10/2021 4:22:24 PM PDT by icclearly
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To: monkeyshine

You’d have to look up those trial numbers at clinicaltrials.gov to see what they are about.

Study to Describe the Safety, Tolerability, Immunogenicity, and Efficacy of RNA Vaccine Candidates Against COVID-19 in Healthy Individuals
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728?term=04368728&draw=2&rank=1

A Trial Investigating the Safety and Effects of Four BNT162 Vaccines Against COVID-2019 in Healthy and Immunocompromised Adults
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04380701?term=04380701&draw=2&rank=1
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Yes, I did. I find that they combine phase numbers so a section I’m reading will say it’s for phase II/III etc. Sometimes they refer to phase I/II or I/II/III but phase III isn’t complete.


133 posted on 04/10/2021 4:29:09 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

The currently available COVID-19 mRNA vaccines have been reviewed and authorized for use by the US FDA, under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) process, and so technically they are not considered fully approved. This EUA process is used in times of urgency to enable medications to become available more quickly than usual. This had never been used before for a vaccine


134 posted on 04/10/2021 4:32:36 PM PDT by The MAGA-Deplorian (Democrats are lawless because Republicans are ball-less!)
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To: icclearly

“If you have a compromised immune system, the efficacy of the virus is almost zero.”

oooops...the last sentence should read,

If you have a compromised immune system, the efficacy of the vaccine is almost zero.


135 posted on 04/10/2021 4:51:23 PM PDT by icclearly
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To: week 71

What if it changes your DNA, changes your name and system for the worse, and turns out to be the Mark of the beast. You can’t buy or sell or go anywhere without having the vaccines and every update that the evil ones require?


136 posted on 04/10/2021 5:35:58 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: tinamina

Laughing out loud!


137 posted on 04/10/2021 5:39:00 PM PDT by week 71
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To: ConservativeMind

Novocaine would be good.


138 posted on 04/10/2021 5:59:06 PM PDT by oldasrocks
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To: week 71

Ok, glad you’re having fun.


139 posted on 04/10/2021 6:01:07 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: Jayster

” the greatest weapon against the coronavirus is Vitamin D”

Good news to me. I knock down a gallon of milk every three days.


140 posted on 04/10/2021 6:27:00 PM PDT by SimpleJack
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