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To: ConservativeInPA

Can’t the FAA ground them if they are considered unsafe to fly? The FAA is the organization which issues flight certificates and ratings. I believe the FAA will not let foreign (or domestic) carriers who don’t meet standards land in the USA.


14 posted on 04/08/2021 5:18:00 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: Cecily

“Can’t the FAA ground them”.....

Someone musta for got what the “F” in FAA stands for ?

Theres your answer


18 posted on 04/08/2021 5:23:28 AM PDT by Bell Bouy II
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To: Cecily
Can’t the FAA ground them if they are considered unsafe to fly?

There will be a Democrat president that writes an executive order to make sure that does not happen. Advancement of minorities is more important than safety.

25 posted on 04/08/2021 5:28:36 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” ― Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Cecily

Sorry, but the FAA is another woke government bureaucracy headed by a Biden appointee.

The FAA itself played this game with air traffic controllers which resulted in numerous incidents and some accidents because of incompetent affirmative action hires.

And the Navy but incompetent females who were having a chick fight and collided with a 10000 foot supertanker.

And then there’s the affirmative action Vice President who is about to become President.


26 posted on 04/08/2021 5:29:18 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: Cecily

You can predict the scenario here.

Along about three years in the future...within a six-month period, three crashes occur. FAA spends six months investigating them....while another three occur in the next period.

They come to find out that in the first three instances...severe weather played some part, but marginal piloting skill made up the rest, with mathematical skills lacking in one of the cases. All six will lead back to United operations and this episode.

Now, I will state this news item from around six years ago in Frankfurt, Germany. Chinese male pilot was late on arriving at the airport, and had never landed in Frankfurt in his life. Messed up on the approach and was ‘waved-off’ for a second approach. Screwed up on second approach. He then amends the situation...to land at the Koln Airport (80 miles away). He had landed there dozens of times and felt ‘safe’ on that runway (less hectic). No one ever said what happened to the guy after that.


33 posted on 04/08/2021 5:34:05 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Cecily
"...I believe the FAA will not let foreign (or domestic) carriers who don’t meet standards land in the USA..."

I think that is only true as far as the standards go. And they may not actually change the standards per se.

If someone makes a mistake (and all humans make mistakes, it is what we do) then, depending on the severity, you might get a warning, or you might lose your job.

Some mistakes are so egregious there isn't much wiggle room and it is a fireable offense.

Others, you may get a warning, a black mark on your record. More than one might get you tossed out.

It has been my experience that, even if the standards on paper are not lowered to accommodate "diversity" in order to foster greater "inclusion and acceptance" of various "protected classes", the leeway given becomes much wider.

There was a famous book some time back, widely read in the Naval Aviation community called "Bogeys and Bandits: The Making of A Fighter Pilot" in which the first class of female F-18 pilot trainees were discussed as part of the book.

Not only were standards lowered in the way I just mentioned (a male pilot would have been tossed out of the program with a single infraction, but at least one of the female trainees was given multiple chances to make that same crucial mistake) but at least one female pilot regularly used her protected status as a female to threaten instructors who didn't want to give her a passing grade.

To be fair, there were also women in that fighter pilot training program who were trying to meet the standards and be fairly judged, which is the problem with crap like "Affirmative Action" because even the competent people who are beneficiaries will always be under the cloud of that affirmative action, and will always have difficulty being judged on their own merits.

36 posted on 04/08/2021 5:41:58 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: Cecily

The FAA is not too far from the FBI in the ingrown gubmint bureaucracy. The FBI is one of the most corrupt, cynical, unethical outfits in the Country. I can’t believe the FAA is far behind. They are all part of the DS. The only part I can’t reconcile is that the clumsy, misfit, incompetent aspiring “pilots” don’t seem to realize that when the plane crashes and burns, THEY crash and burn with it. Or don’t they even give a bleep about THAT?


62 posted on 04/08/2021 6:16:05 AM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible so to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington )
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