The Joe Rogan Experience did a podcast with the retired Marine Commander/pilot who was in the cockpit for the UAP film from 2004 released last year by the government. He reviewed his experience and the other two films released by the government.
There is also the JRE podcast with Robert Lazar where he explains the artificial gravitation fields created by ET aircraft he allegedly worked on at the S4 site near Groom Lake/area 51 in 1989.
These are both available on Youtube.
Robert Lazar
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Yes, Art Bell had Bob Lazar and John Lear on his show a number of times years ago, Bottom line: Ultimately the truth will force its presence into human consciousness. Like Art, Joe is not afraid to go where the less curious refuse to venture. That’s why Joe is so popular
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFuogDGo2lQ