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Military and spy agencies accused of stiff-arming investigators on UFO sightings
politico.com ^ | BRYAN BENDER

Posted on 03/27/2021 6:33:39 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

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To: attiladhun2

The math is against there being even the simplest of unicellular life, much less complex multicellular species. That life anywhere arose by chance is statistically zero. That it would happen more than that is a statistical zero times that.

How’s your multiplication? How well are you familiar with statistical formulae, notation and its uses as you imply?

There are 300 billion stars in this galaxy, each of which likely has one planet; there are at least 100 trillion galaxies, each as large or larger than our own, every star of which has at least one planet. Question: how many planets are there in the currently known Universe?

Do you have a really big hat to talk through?


21 posted on 03/27/2021 8:09:17 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: RoosterRedux

The truth may be out there or it may not depends if you hears the voices.


22 posted on 03/27/2021 8:25:03 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Hulka

A very well researched and calm discussion of this topic:

https://www.amazon.com/UFOs-National-Security-State-Chronology/dp/1571743170

https://www.amazon.com/UFOs-National-Security-State-1973-1991/dp/0967799511/


23 posted on 03/27/2021 8:56:24 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: RoosterRedux

David Vincent gave it everything he had.


24 posted on 03/27/2021 9:03:50 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Don't blame me, I Voted for the guy who actually Won the 2020 Presidential Election...)
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To: cgbg

MJ 12, which later led to Blue Book, was never formed to prove the existence, but to prove they might not exist so they could be written off.

Although at first fearful that the objects might be Soviet secret weapons, the Air Force soon concluded that UFOs were real but easily explained and not extraordinary. The Air Force report found that almost all sightings stemmed from one or more of three causes: mass hysteria and hallucination, hoax, or misinterpretation of known objects. Nevertheless, the report recommended continued military intelligence control over the investigation of all sightings and did not rule out the possibility of extraterrestrial phenomena. Just tried to smoke them out of sight.

Project GRUDGE was the first effort in trying to dissuade the public to be concerned about them. They never said they weren’t there when they couldn’t blame it on weather balloons or swamp gas. They just broke into a commercial for Reese’s Pieces in the middle of the report to take the listener off track. Then they went back to their regular scheduled program after the BULLetin.

wy69


25 posted on 03/27/2021 9:17:26 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: attiladhun2

According to Sir Fred Hoyle, for the most simple life form to emerge from a “primordial soup” by chance would be 10 raised to the power of 40,000 (there are “only” 10 to the 83rd electrons in the known universe). Others have calculated even leser odds for life emerging by chance.


26 posted on 03/27/2021 9:42:00 AM PDT by attiladhun2
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To: RoosterRedux

The Biden-Harris Administration only accepts one type of aliens, illegal.


27 posted on 03/27/2021 9:53:17 AM PDT by romanesq (TRUSTY THE PLAN! ChiCom Joe is the Plan? Que magnificent! 👹)
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To: whitney69

The military did more than just publish dumb reports—they pursued an active disinformation campaign.

One well documented example of many:

https://www.amazon.com/Project-Beta-Bennewitz-National-Security-ebook/dp/B000FCK0KI


28 posted on 03/27/2021 10:12:32 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Gunslingr3

Probably a smart missile performing test extremes no human could physically endure. Maybe it even has a reverse thrust ability to make the smart anti-missile missile unable to stay with it.


29 posted on 03/27/2021 10:21:49 AM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: attiladhun2

If conditions were such that life could exist here on Earth why couldn’t they exist elsewhere in the universe?


30 posted on 03/27/2021 11:23:52 AM PDT by jmacusa (The result of conformity is everyone will like you but yourself.)
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To: Zuriel
Probably a smart missile performing test extremes no human could physically endure. Maybe it even has a reverse thrust ability to make the smart anti-missile missile unable to stay with it.

The missile knows where it is.

31 posted on 03/27/2021 11:36:12 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: cgbg

https://books.google.com/books?id=_faOWonIle4C&pg=PA418&lpg=PA418&dq=Kent+Johnson+%26+%22Reading+the+Enemy%27s+Mind%22%5C&source=bl&ots=5L79xRM1ve&sig=ACfU3U1pYySfSzWBaDT0OXIL5iiYnvdqgw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjijKTOlNHvAhXCX80KHVo5COoQ6AEwAHoECAIQAw#v=onepage&q=Kent%20Johnson%20%26%20%22Reading%20the%20Enemy‘s%20Mind%22%5C&f=false

Rational review of a sighting.


32 posted on 03/27/2021 12:03:06 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: RoosterRedux

We’ve got a lot bigger problems than phantom ufos


33 posted on 03/27/2021 12:49:47 PM PDT by NWFree (Socialism is legalized plunder)
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To: attiladhun2

There is a more ‘elegant’ argument: the known processes supporting life / expressing life require information, require a code of operation which random chance can never produce with replication directions and correction of data as a characteristic randomly derived. Designer had to come before the artifact.


34 posted on 03/27/2021 12:57:39 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

Indeed. Theist inference best explains the existence of life.


35 posted on 03/27/2021 1:27:13 PM PDT by attiladhun2
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To: RoosterRedux

If this information were harmful to the well being of the nation, the Democrats would have leaked it years ago.


36 posted on 03/27/2021 1:41:55 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: GreenHornet

Which is why this intelligence is kept from Congress and politicians, even presidents.


37 posted on 03/27/2021 3:13:19 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: allendale

I pretty much agree.

If anything UFOs are us. Traveling back in time tourism.

Time-shifting is a stretch of the imagination but it’s still more logical than an entity traveling zillions of miles to get here and then do nothing at all - no mining, no landing on the WH lawn, no circling the moon, no group singalongs, just a few lights in the sky. We’ve had SETI since ‘84 - nothing. Our planet is lit up like a billboard. Nothing. And I don’t buy that space invaders would be patient enough to wait a few decades of ‘softening the idea’ to humans. They’re us.


38 posted on 03/27/2021 4:45:43 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: attiladhun2

+1


39 posted on 03/27/2021 5:02:02 PM PDT by Kevmo (The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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To: Gunslingr3

It was a secret weapon with a vectored thrust engine like the Harrier, which has been observed turning right angle corners. 1950s and 60s technology with some fancy new propulsion upgrades.


40 posted on 03/27/2021 5:07:22 PM PDT by Kevmo (The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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