Posted on 03/18/2021 2:24:41 PM PDT by ransomnote
I think the UK equivalent of this reporting is Yellow Card?
Goodness, you’re going to have to hugely up your rate of Anti-vaccination Jihad postings to have an impact. Americans are becoming fully vaccinated at a rate if almost a million a day.
VAERS reports only mean that something happened at some point after the person got vaccinated. Grampa is 98 with a history of heart conditions and dies of a heart attack a week and a half after getting a vaccine? It goes into VAERS - by law.
Here’s some references from the HHS Guide to Interpreting Data in VAERS:
“When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established.”
“VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.”
“VAERS reports can be submitted voluntarily by anyone, including healthcare providers, patients, or family members. Reports vary in quality and completeness. They often lack details and sometimes can have information that contains errors.”
“A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described.”
“No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the report.”
https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html
https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data
Because the vaccines skipped animal testing and the 2 year long-term human studies need for FDA approval, and received “Emergency Use Authorization” instead, which included a small sample size tested for 2 months, there are no studies on how exactly the vaccines caused deaths etc.
Ironically, after ‘enough’ people die, we can then go back and explain the causal relationship. For now, we’re just noting that ‘death also occured’ in 93 vaccines and of those, Covid vaccines are #2 and #3 within it’s first month of implementation compared with much older vaccines.
My doctor told me today that the real effect will be known after 3 years.
Until then, you are the animal study.
Keep this obvious fact in mind. 90%+ people receiving vaccines so far are old gizzers. Not so with vaccines for polio, TB, Tetanus, Diptheria, etc
Old people are known to die more often than young people...just saying. Look behind the curtain always.
No they did not. Moderna had challenge trials with rhesus monkeys, as did Pfizer.
"skipped animal testing and the 2 year long-term human studies need for FDA approval, and received “Emergency Use Authorization” instead, which included a small sample size tested for 2 months"
Also wrong. There are 5 established tracks for FDA approval. There's the longest track, used when there's no urgent need. There are then four other accelerated pathways for new medicines. These have all been around for decades. This isn't something new that President Trump created from nothing.
The COVID-19 vaccines have gone through full Phase 1, Phase 2, and Phase 3 clinical studies. The first recipients got their doses over a year ago (March 16, 2020). They're all closely monitored to this day for any sign of adverse effects.
"there are no studies on how exactly the vaccines caused deaths etc."
Nonsense. Every death is fully investigated, regardless of the immediately apparent cause.
"Covid vaccines are #2 and #3 within it’s first month of implementation compared with much older vaccines."
They were given to the oldest and most frail members of the population first. If you give a bunch of 95 year old grannies anything - Tylenol, water, Goldfish crackers - some of them will be dead in a few days or weeks. Older folks die. The Goldfish didn't necessarily kill them. Neither did the vaccine.
Bunch of fearmongering hogwash.
ransomnote: “Many point out that the deaths are not necessarily related to the vaccine, but this would be true for all 93 vaccines in the database, so the Covid19 vaccine ranks are correct in relation to other vaccines.”
I wouldn’t expect this to be true across different vaccines.
ransomnote: “I read that the AstraZeneca vaccine has been paused in many parts of Europe due to high numbers of “immune thrombocytopenia” and wondered if Moderna/Pfizer had the same problem.”
The EU now recommends vaccinations resume with the AZ vaccine. Here’s a free republic post:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3943339/posts
ransomnote: “Immune thrombocytopenia is often reported in the illness itself, particularly among older patients and it’s certainly disappointing that ‘vaccine’ triggers this as well.”
There is no credible reason to believe the ‘vaccine triggers’ this effect. In fact, other articles point out that the incidents can be caused by other medications.
I should also have thanked you for taking the time to prepare and post this tutorial.
I am just sitting back and eating the popcorn. One thing is for sure as we will see in 3,5,15 to 20 years to humans and society post Covid 19. I simply do not trust much of anything in the media,science,academia or government and at one time those institutions had true knowledge and integrity and now they are all trash that I would not bet my life on.
It’s an insufficiently tested experimental gene therapy that has not undergone testing (including sample sizes of statistically relevant size) and success rates required for FDA Approval and is based on technology developed in 2005. mRNA has, after 15 years of testing failed to obtain FDA Approval and only has Emergency Use Authorization because all the animals (cats) in those prior mRNA trials died and it never was effective against any of the illnesses.
You and Dr. Fauci both distort the fact that it is not FDA Approved. You switch the convo to ‘5 established tracks” when the question is did it gain FDA approval. It does not have FDA approval. It has EUA because it lacks 2 years of testing and successful animal trials of statistically relevant size adhering to pre-defined requirements.
Ivermectin and HCQ have FDA approval for specified treatments. It had long term studies and sufficient testing on animals and humans. Fauci and other untrustworthy bureaucrats prevented all use of those medications which meant people were not treated until hospitalized and then they were given aggressive ventilation. The public would emergency death rates for other illnesses if treatments and effective medications were denied. The FDA could have allowed Doctors to write off-label prescriptions for those drugs if they wanted to, because that’s common in medicine. The FDA could have given HCQ and Ivermectin an Emergency Use Authorization given it was deemed an emegency, and that would have allowed patients a “right to try” rather agonize through their illnesses/deaths without these medications.
Medications were withheld from the sick and dying to pave the way for these experimental Covid therapies which could not have been rushed through to Emergency Use Authorization; to get EUA there have to be no other available medications. This is murder. These Covid therapies (Pfizer, Moderna) are unlikely to ever gain FDA Approval because the mRNA technology upon which they are based never has in 15 years since it’s invention.
Fauci is out there lying about it too. When asked if it was FDA approved he answered “Yes!” in a hearty voice. He KNOWS it is not FDA approved. So he equated FDA APPROVAL with Emergency Use Authorization, which is markedly different. He did it intentionally to confuse the public and the MSM is LOVIN’ it!
Since mRNA has failed to deliver success in curing or preventing HIV and other Corona Viruses, the Covid-19 constitutes a world-wide experiment. Deal with it.
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“ mRNA has, after 15 years of testing failed to obtain FDA Approval and only has Emergency Use Authorization because all the animals (cats) in those prior mRNA trials died and it never was effective against any of the illnesses.”
THIS
I’m starting to wonder if our Shiite Vaxer was sent here last April to promote vaccines.
Bunch of fearmongering hogwash..
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Tell that to my wife’s 47 year nurse coworker”s family who are mourning her passing 48 hrs after the second Moderna stick. A brain bleed from clotting.
Are we going to get daily update threads about vaccine deaths now?
If you are giving one million vaccinations each day it stands to reason that there will be a higher incidence of negative reactions. I don’t see any other vaccine being given that has lines down the street and around the corner.
Are we going to get daily update threads about vaccine deaths now?
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Hey, good idea! We should because we have at least 2 frequent threads about latest death counts from the illness; we need to post about 2 daily about vaccine deaths. How else will the public get the balanced information they need? Thanks for the idea!
I am sorry to hear about your wife’s co worker of 47 years. Is that coworker of 47 years because that person would be 69 years old minimum. Or do you mean 47 year old coworker which if you are going to be indignant about it you should at least say it in a way that people know that you are talking about. Plus, we should not make decisions for huge numbers of people based on the experiences of one. You should never be in an automobile because I knew someone who died in a car accident.
Has any investigation been done at this point as to what actually caused the clotting and brain bleeding? Because we usually like to know what actually caused something rather than making wild assumptions with zero evidence, particularly when it concerns a person's death.
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