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Posted on 03/12/2021 3:42:52 PM PST by silent majority rising

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American persistence and ingenuity (with the help of immigrant foreigners who loved the US as well), has always allowed us to win against great odds. In spite of the efforts of the liberals to destroy this country, I believe we will prevail, stronger than ever...in the words of the prophet, "They ain't seen nothin' yet'.
1 posted on 03/12/2021 3:42:52 PM PST by silent majority rising
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To: silent majority rising

As Paul Harvey used to say, “And that is the rest of the story!”


2 posted on 03/12/2021 3:43:37 PM PST by silent majority rising
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To: silent majority rising

Remember when Rush Limbaugh said “I’ll let you know when it’s time to panic”?

Well my FRiend, that time has come.

I do appreciate your Optimism though.


3 posted on 03/12/2021 3:49:04 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Don't blame me, I Voted for the guy who actually Won the 2020 Presidential Election...)
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To: silent majority rising

As I heard it, 100-octand avgas wasn’t the result of catalytic cracking, it was the result of tetraethyl lead.


4 posted on 03/12/2021 3:51:07 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: silent majority rising

“100,000 Americans died in the skies over Europe.”

That number seems high.


5 posted on 03/12/2021 3:58:44 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: silent majority rising

The British and American ground crews at the airplane service stations were full service and cleaned the windshields on the British and American planes.

Many German pilots spent hours chasing a squished grasshopper on their windshields that they thought was a Spitfire.


6 posted on 03/12/2021 4:01:55 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: DuncanWaring

I thought it was Shell that first made 100 octane and Jimmy Doolittle was involved.


7 posted on 03/12/2021 4:02:08 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Kickass Conservative

If so, what are you going to do about it?


8 posted on 03/12/2021 4:08:53 PM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian (Sarcasm. It's my only natural defense against stupidity)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

Source: 398th BG newsletter (http://personal.psu.edu/kbf107/Losses.html)
“During World War II, one in three airmen survived the air battle over Europe. The losses were extraordinary. The casualties suffered by the Eighth Air Force were about half of the U.S. Army Air Force’s casualties (47,483 out of 115,332), including more than 26,000 dead.”

My uncle went on a bombing raid to Germany, where over 500 of the men were lost in one night.


9 posted on 03/12/2021 4:17:22 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

Being a bomber crewman was so deadly, a man could go home after 25 missions. Most didn’t make it during the early years of the war when fighter cover wasn’t available all the way to the targets. Once the fighters had to turn back, Luftwaffer fighters had a very easy time shooting down bombers. There were some bomber raids that resulted in 15-20 crew losses.

Got much better with the introduction of 51 .ustangs with upgraded British Merlin engines with drop tanks and better fuel management.

The 100,000 number isn’t high. Seeing that the U.S. had a total of about 316 KIA during WW II, bomber crews suffered an exceptionally high death rate.


10 posted on 03/12/2021 4:18:24 PM PST by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: WASCWatch

That should 15-25 bomber losses.


11 posted on 03/12/2021 4:21:00 PM PST by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: silent majority rising

A study after the war of the strategic bombing campaign in Europe showed that only 25% of the bombs dropped by Allied bombers landed within 15 miles of their target.

The losses of aircrews was horrific.

Victor Davis Hanson made a brilliant observation of the Allied bombing campaign in Europe.

It forced the Nazis to pull thousands of their best antitank weapons, the 88 Flak Cannon, away from the Russian tanks heading for Germany.

Had those weapons been available for the Eastern Front, it might have been a very different war.

Those young American fliers didn’t bomb Germany into defeat, but their sacrifices were instrumental to winning the war.


12 posted on 03/12/2021 4:26:41 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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Yes. Gas stations used to offer "regular" or "ethyl" (short for tetraethyllead). The gas jockey would ask "regular or ethyl?" before he filled up your car at 19 cents per gallon.

Pure TEL is poisonous as hell, very nasty stuff.

13 posted on 03/12/2021 4:26:54 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: Tijeras_Slim

According to the Wikipedia article on tetraethyl lead GM and DuPont discovered in the 1920s that it increased octane.

Encyclopedia Brittanica tells roughly the same story.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraethyllead#History

https://www.britannica.com/science/tetraethyl-lead


14 posted on 03/12/2021 4:31:02 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

We had leaded gas in our tank and sperm whale oil in our transmission. Life was good!


15 posted on 03/12/2021 4:34:39 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: DuncanWaring

Thanks!


16 posted on 03/12/2021 4:38:06 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: DuncanWaring

Tetraethyl lead was invented by GM in the early 20s.


17 posted on 03/12/2021 4:43:32 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones.)
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To: WASCWatch

There were some bomber raids that resulted in 15-20 crew losses.


290 B-17s departed England for Schweinfurt on 14 Oct 1943.

60 of them (and 600 crewmen) did not return.


18 posted on 03/12/2021 4:43:42 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: WASCWatch; BeauBo

I realize that flying on bombers over Europe was extremely dangerous and that they suffered high losses. I have a hard time believing that aircrew deaths in Europe accounted for over 20% of all deaths of U.S. servicemen in the entire war. There was a lot else going on.

If you find an accurate and reliable number, please let me know.


19 posted on 03/12/2021 4:44:49 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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"I thought it was Shell that first made 100 octane and Jimmy Doolittle was involved."

You're right on both counts:

"Well versed in high-performance engines and their fuel requirements, Doolittle began pushing the oil company to go into production while simultaneously convincing military brass to order a few thousand gallons of 100-octane aviation gas. Tests in 1934 at Wright Field near Dayton, Ohio, confirmed Doolittle's suspicions when the Army Air Corps reported 20 to 30 percent improvements in power without any increase in operating temperatures. At the time, aviation fuel was typically 87 octane, and high-octane automobile fuel just 77 octane." Link

Jimmy Doolittle was a Man.

20 posted on 03/12/2021 4:45:18 PM PST by Flag_This (China delenda est.)
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