Posted on 03/07/2021 8:44:53 AM PST by wny
No that is incorrect. I’m pretty sure there wasn’t any ship building going on in Barbados. Barbados had overplanted the entire island with sugar cane and was virtually denuded of trees. The plantation owners financed a trip North in search of wood. The wood was needed for firing up the sugar refineries and for construction. They ended up in Charleston.
Here are the original proprietors:
Duke of Albemarle, Earl of Clarendon,Baron Berkeley of Stratton, Earl of Craven, Sir George Carteret, Sir William Berkeley, Sir John Colleton, Earl of Shaftesbury.
Which of them set foot on Barbados?
what is incorrect?
The first wave of English settlers to southern Carolina, sailed from Barbados looking for beginnings in the “new world,”.
William Sayle sailed up the Ashley River with three shiploads of English emigrants from the Barbados. They arrived in April 1670. These English settlers established the settlement of Albermarle Point.
Accompanying the wealthy colonial landowners were African American slaves, and white indentured servants. They pitched their tents on its banks and built a town, which has since wholly disappeared.
“The Lord Proprietors did not travel to Carolina themselves but they sent their agents from Barbados to oversee the settlement of Carolina.”
https://www.slideshare.net/mobile/capesociology/before-there-was-carolina-there-was-barbados-30167075
What is incorrect is your statement that “my reference to lumber likely was to Georgia Live Oak used in shipbuilding and piers.” My reference was not to that. See post #56.
Err, make that post #61.
“The first wave of settlers, sailing from Barbados looking for new beginnings in the “new world,” arrived in April 1670. These English settlers established the settlement of Albermarle Point, which would later become known as Charlestowne. Accompanying the wealthy colonial landowners were African American slaves, and white indentured servants. Charlestowne’s success as a colony is attributed to the success of England’s settlement of Barbados.”
What was your point? That the tents had wholly disappeared?
That is what the article says.
“Charlestowne’s success as a colony is attributed to the success of England's settlement of Barbados.”
No data to support this contention.
My answer was a general fact about an assertion you were making. You misread the post.
You name the “titles” of the Lord Proprietarys. For example, your Earl of Shaftesbury is aka Anthony Ashley Cooper. Couple that with this:
“Of the eight Lords Proprietors to receive a charter to settle the Carolinas, the most active were lords Anthony Ashley Cooper and Sir John Colleton, both of whom owned plantations in Barbados.”
So it would appear that at least two of your Lords, though they may never have set foot in the New World, certainly had ties to Barbados (and then to Charlestowne via Barbados). They sent their agents from Barbados to the Carolinas. Sounds a lot like a tie to me.
FYI, “The titles of the eight initial owners reflect their rise: Edward Hyde, first earl of Clarendon; George Monck, first duke of Albemarle; William Craven, first earl of Craven; Anthony Ashley Cooper, first earl of Shaftesbury; John Berkeley, first baron Berkeley of Stratton, and his brother Sir William Berkeley, governor of Virginia; Sir George Carteret; and Sir John Colleton.
https://www.scencyclopedia.org/sce/entries/lords-proprietors-of-carolina/
Re: “Your prior reference to lumber likely was to Georgia Live Oak used in shipbuilding and piers.”
My prior reference to lumber was not to “Georgia Live Oak used in shipbuilding and piers”.
But that is all beside the point. The point being that I maintain there were ties between Barbados and the colonization of S.C., and you maintain there were none.
Is that why you intentionally left it out of your quote?
The answer to that would be Sir John Colleton.
“Sir John Colleton, 1st Baronet (1608 - 1666) rose to rank in the King's army during the English Civil War, spent £40,000 in the service of King Charles I, and lost much more when his property was seized by the forces of Parliament. He retired to Barbados and was one of about a dozen Stuart followers there who were knighted by King Charles II.”
Even you must now agree that, at the very least, there were ties between S.C. and Barbados! Will you?
https://www.carolana.com/Carolina/Proprietors/johncolleton.html
Your comments have been in support of this assertion.....”.Interestingly enough, S.C began as a colony of Barbados.
And that is and was not true.
While I have proved my assertion (with your help) and stand by it, See above where I make ties between your “Lords Proprietors” and Barbados.
Room for one more? ;)
For you, yes! :)
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