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Hacking is not a crime – and the media should stop using 'hacker' as a pejorative (Viewer Debate/POLL at The Register)
The Register ^ | Mar 3, 2021 | Alyssa Miller

Posted on 03/03/2021 1:39:03 PM PST by dayglored

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You can bet the rent that I voted FOR.
1 posted on 03/03/2021 1:39:03 PM PST by dayglored
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To: Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ATOMIC_PUNK; bajabaja; ...
Restore the original meaning of "Hacker" ... PING!

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2 posted on 03/03/2021 1:40:02 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

I’m betting this is actually related to the pejorative “hack”, which I have to believe has been around longer than the ‘50s. In fact it’s probably from Hackney horse or cab. I don’t know but surmise all this. Somehow a “hack” is someone who’s no good at something.


3 posted on 03/03/2021 1:46:36 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Yeah, "hack" has the old unfortunately sense of someone who doesn't know what they're doing. And certainly "hacking something together" i.e. "jerry-rig" has been around a long time.

I first learned of "hack" and "hacker" in the positive sense when a HS friend of mine went to MIT and learned about the various hacks done there.

4 posted on 03/03/2021 1:49:18 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

If you are hired by the owner to come to a business or home then you are not burgling or trespassing. Otherwise, you are.

People diddling around in other people’s computers are no better than burglars and trespassers, yes?


5 posted on 03/03/2021 1:52:09 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: dayglored

Hacking is NOT a crime? Of course it is. Who is this idiot?


6 posted on 03/03/2021 1:55:26 PM PST by fightin kentuckian
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To: fightin kentuckian

18 U.S. Code § 1030 - Fraud and related activity in connection with computers

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1030

This person isn’t very smart.


7 posted on 03/03/2021 2:00:19 PM PST by rdl6989 ( )
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To: fightin kentuckian
> Hacking is NOT a crime? Of course it is. Who is this idiot?

She's an "originalist", one who believes in not perverting meaning to a modern fad. You are familiar with the concept, yes?

Good lord, Friend, learn a bit about the term "hacker" (and "hack" and "hacking"). They're not what you apparently think they are.

8 posted on 03/03/2021 2:00:38 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

Except it is. A programmer from Cupertino told me so , around 1980.


9 posted on 03/03/2021 2:00:52 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches, and get with what's real.)
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To: rdl6989
> This person isn’t very smart.

*sigh* another one. Please see above, comment #8.

10 posted on 03/03/2021 2:01:34 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored
"...Stating that hackers stole 3 million health records when the actors are not known is akin to claiming firearms enthusiasts robbed a bank simply because they were armed with guns..."

That is asinine logic.

In common usage, normal people view "hacker" as a pejorative term. Just because some computer enthusiasts (who only muddle in their own systems screwing around and experimenting and don't break into others or steal) take issue with the pejorative use of the term doesn't make them right.

Normal people would view them rightly as geeks, and might good naturedly call them "hackers" as a joke. If they want to call themselves hackers as a term of endearment to their hobby, they are entitled to.

Because of the pain, anguish, stress, lost time, and money that hackers have caused me in my personal and professional life, I view these people with extreme prejudice.

And I have suffered personally and professionally at the hands of these criminals we call hackers. I wouldn't have a problem if someone took a baseball bat to their hands as punishment.

And I am not kidding. I work in an industry where people can be physically harmed by this activity, people lose their jobs over it, we have huge losses in productivity and functionality as a result of it, so I have zero-ZERO tolerance or patience with it.

11 posted on 03/03/2021 2:04:20 PM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: dayglored

I’d be happy if the term “hack” were used only for things having to do with computers. I think it’s ridiculous for it to be used for every household tip, as in “Here’s a hack for getting dog-pee odor out of a carpet.” It just seems pretentious.


12 posted on 03/03/2021 2:04:23 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: ShadowAce
Hi ShadowAce.

I'm rather disappointed to see that most of our FReepers are perfectly willing to fall in line with the Fake News Media.

You would think that on a Conservative website, the term "Original Meaning" would carry some weight.

The author of the "FOR" argument isn't arguing in favor of cyber crime, for God's sake. She's arguing that we should find another word for it, and let "hack" go back to what it used to mean -- something positive done in an unconventional or innovative way.

13 posted on 03/03/2021 2:06:39 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: HartleyMBaldwin
> I think it’s ridiculous for it to be used for every household tip, as in “Here’s a hack for getting dog-pee odor out of a carpet.” It just seems pretentious.

And yet, ironically, that's closer to the correct, original meaning of "hack": An unconventional but successful method.

14 posted on 03/03/2021 2:08:25 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

And gay means happy.


15 posted on 03/03/2021 2:08:27 PM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan. )
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To: dayglored
"...Alyssa is a member of the WiCyS Racial Equity Committee, Chapter Leader for Women of Security (WoSEC), and board member for Blue Team Con and Circle City Con. Her views, research, and career journey have been featured in “Tribe of Hackers: Blue Team”, SC Magazine, Cybercrime Magazine, and various other media appearances..."

Yes. An "originalist". I'll bet this "scientifically based person" doesn't believe that XX=Female and XY=Male.

16 posted on 03/03/2021 2:10:21 PM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: dayglored

You Can’t use the term Jerry-Rig. Definitely racist


17 posted on 03/03/2021 2:14:01 PM PST by dsrtsage (Complexity is merely simplicity lacking imagination)
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To: rlmorel
> In common usage, normal people view "hacker" as a pejorative term. Just because some computer enthusiasts (who only muddle in their own systems screwing around and experimenting and don't break into others or steal) take issue with the pejorative use of the term doesn't make them right.

Are you willing to apply that concept to the Constitution?:

In common usage, normal people view "The Constitution" as a Living Document, open to any sort of change based on modern whims. Just because some "Conservatives" and "Originalists" (who only muddle in their own forums) take issue with the modern use of the term doesn't make them right.
I didn't think so.

We need a different term for "cyber criminal" that rolls off the tongue like "hacker" does. For a while "cracker" tried to fill that role, but it didn't catch on for various obvious reasons.

18 posted on 03/03/2021 2:14:23 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored
While I wholeheartedly agree with you, I believe we have already lost this battle--just like we lost the battle with "gay."

I also fight the battle against "enthused." It is most definitely not a word.

However, since ignorance is much more prevalent and insistent in this world, those who know better tend to lose the war in things like this.

19 posted on 03/03/2021 2:14:32 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: dsrtsage
> You Can’t use the term Jerry-Rig. Definitely racist

Oops, my bad. "Jury-rig"?

20 posted on 03/03/2021 2:16:07 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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