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Was actually surprised that Free Republic never covered Liberty The God that Failed on here, so adding the first part of the Distributist Review's commentary on the book. And I've actually read the book myself. I'll tell you this much, it certainly left me very cynical about our founding with all the information it supplied. That said, however, I'd still support America only because it's either that or supporting communists/progressives. Unfortunately, based on this review, to say very little about the book itself, it sounds like Jefferson helped found progressivism long before Theodore Roosevelt ever did. In fact, some of the eight points listed that Jefferson did are the exact same stuff progressives have done. We probably need to cover these things, especially when the notion of liberty if this book is correct may have outright KILLED God's absolute rule over the world that he worked via having Jesus crucified to regain control over.

I even have the book and can post portions that it's sourced in.

And yes, a part 2 will be put up as well. For the record, Distributist Review is no progressive site, it's a traditional catholic site, and has made no qualms condemning Pope Francis for his radical actions

1 posted on 02/25/2021 3:10:55 AM PST by otness_e
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“most of the Founding Fathers were lawyers, and that they constructed a legal framework that cannot be easily navigated by the rest of us.”

Nonsense - I never studied law and I find the Constitution quite clear. It seems the author wants to pretend otherwise so he can criticize it without having to quote it.


2 posted on 02/25/2021 5:05:21 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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I'm surprised to see an article questioning America's founding ideology here at FR, but the fact is that our country and Constitution are products of the "enlightenment." Most of our founders, Jeffersonian or Federalist, were no friends of traditional dogmatic religion.

Of course the biggest disappointment with the article is its assumption that the only alternative is the Catholic high middle ages. No matter what flavor, every chrstian out there chooses to ignore the fact that long before chrstianity existed, Theocracy existed in ancient Israel--the only true Theocracy in history. But of course every chrstian presupposes that "anybody with one eye and half sense" somehow "knows" implicitly that chrstianity is the true religion. There was a Jewish Throne and Altar centuries before chrstianity existed.

I'm also disgusted--though not really surprised--by the author's making chrstianity a fulfillment of ancient Greek philosophy rather than of Judaism. If you really want to know where things started going south, look to the ancient Greeks.

One thing about chrstianity most people don't see is its peculiar form of relativism: every single traditionally chrstian people is the New Chosen Nation and every traditionally chrstian country is the New Holy Land. In American ideology the country was raised up after the "true religion" was "restored" by Protestantism for the express purpose of converting the world to the restored one true religion (despite all the Founders' "defenses of religion" being solely utilitarian). This is no different from the chrstian nationalism of Ethiopia, Coptic Egypt, "holy mother Russia," Armenia, Spain, or the "island of saints and scholars" (Ireland). So long as it fosters this type of national relativism, chrstianity will and can never be a truly universal religion.

Why not acknowledge that the once chosen people is still chosen and stick to G-d's Truth as delivered from the beginning?

4 posted on 02/25/2021 7:10:10 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Nuke Davos.)
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