[Widget Jr]

Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905), SCOTUS allowed compulsory vaccination, and affirmed it in Zucht v. King, 260 U.S. 174 (1922). When the practice of personal liberty inherently puts others liberty at risk, the state has the right to act to protect the liberty of everyone. Not to be naive, people being people means how to make this decision, on what basis, is usually a hard fought political battle. Looking at the history of the case, in the 1900 to 1920, communicable diseases were a leading cause of death. Before the 1918 flu smallpox was extremely dangerous. Vaccines were a solution that worked. There were risks, however these were less than not vaccinating.

This brings up two problems with libertarianism. Libertarians are so focused on the individual, they forget the individual is a part of a society, and everyone in society has rights too. When the liberty or rights of one transgress on the liberty and rights of someone else, in the U.S. and other countries legislatures pass laws and courts make decisions to deal with that. Second, libertarians tend to ignore how we got to where we are when it gets in their way, then act as if a philosophical argument makes all that history go away.

[Secret Agent Man]

so iety on one hand cannot hold contradictory beliefs of ‘my body my choice’ for one thing and “we will force you to take this’ for others

besides forced vaccination (any medical procedure) against a persons will is a clear violation of the Nuremburg laws

you really want to be a nazi?

[metmom]

When the practice of personal liberty inherently puts others liberty at risk, the state has the right to act to protect the liberty of everyone.

Which is not humanly possible.

You cannot protect the liberty of everyone with state intervention.

The minute the state steps in, someone’s liberty is going to be trampled for the alleged sake of someone else’s liberty and usually it’s the liberty of the vast majority to accommodate the preferences of a small minority.

[Vaquero]

SPJNK. Like anyone who tries to force a needle into me.

[Vaquero]

And it’s not solely for philosophical reasons. But health reasons. If YOU want to protect yourself against the virus, then YOU get vaccinated.....simple. I’ll take my chances.

[Georgia Girl 2]

You need to move to Germany with that philosophy. 😆

[Georgia Girl 2]

So you voted for Clinton and live in Seattle. OK now we get it. 😆