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FLASHBACK: The “Repeal Section 230” Narrative is Being Pushed by Silicon Valley, Don’t Fall For It
GAB ^ | October 16, 2020 | Andrew Torba

Posted on 02/14/2021 12:30:53 PM PST by SmokingJoe

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To: SmokingJoe
I would take a different strategy. If I were Trump 2024, on Day One (actually Day 1462) I would nationalize Twitter, Facebook, and Google, due to their blatant disregard for the 1st Amendment, seize their assets, and simply dissolve all 3 corporations.

"We don't have time for anti-trust, we don't have time for regulations and I'm not fond of regulations anyway. We needed to act big and we did. I encourage the marketplace to fill the void. Thank you."

21 posted on 02/14/2021 3:53:56 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems Is The Blue Dress)
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To: dangus
"Network Effect means Gab is forever banished to a niche corner of the market, but a safe one that is plenty large enough for Gan to expand into."

Yeah they could have moved against Gab -- not the same simple way they ended Parler but probably could have jammed them up into disfunctionality -- but they had to leave one viable alternative, or chance that even a lightweight Bushie judge would look askance at the obvious collusion and tort interference -- and perhaps even examine upchain at the Respondent's prior restraint as well.

22 posted on 02/14/2021 3:59:37 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems Is The Blue Dress)
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To: dangus
"Gab only exists because Twitter and Facebook have driven people away, using Section 230 as a pretext. Fix Twitter and Facebook, and Gab has no reason to exist."

This.

It wasn't all that long ago that Mark Zuckerberg was in front of congress begging and pleading for more bureaucracy and more regulations. "regulate me".

How did the people at Gab miss that?

FLASHBACK: The “Repeal Section 230” Narrative is Being Pushed by Silicon Valley, Don’t Fall For It

FLASHBACK: The “Regulate big tech companies” Narrative is Being Pushed by Silicon Valley, Don’t Fall For It.


23 posted on 02/14/2021 4:02:39 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (Public meetings are superior to newspapers)
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To: SmokingJoe

The big companies aren’t able to keep up with moderating properly and thoroughly. They’d be brought down in the courts with their lopsided beliefs. And “AI” isn’t what it’s exaggerated to be.


24 posted on 02/14/2021 5:04:26 PM PST by familyop
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To: SmokingJoe

President Trump knew what he was talking about as per his advisors.


25 posted on 02/14/2021 5:05:00 PM PST by familyop
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To: SmokingJoe

fascinating word,
panopticon


26 posted on 02/14/2021 5:41:36 PM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: SmokingJoe

“Section 230 doesn’t apply to Big Tech’s editorializing. The First Amendment does.”

It does???????????


27 posted on 02/14/2021 6:18:24 PM PST by NoLibZone (Any Guard in DC are traitors. I don't pray/hope for their safety.They passed the test and will shoot)
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To: SmokingJoe

Read later.


28 posted on 02/15/2021 1:16:19 AM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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I had a multi-billion dollar venture capital firm reach out to me last night. We don't need them. We have YOU. When you support Gab you make it possible for us to stay independent and true to our mission.

https://gab.com/a/posts/105736252805315426



29 posted on 02/15/2021 9:50:03 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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30 posted on 02/15/2021 9:50:15 AM PST by yoe (President Trump works for We The People - not China as Biden has and will.)
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To: AZJeep
The repeal of 230 section would be great if done properly. By Donald Trump e.g.
Nowadays, we can expect only the Democratic version of this. And it looks like that would be worse than nothing.
I am with the Gab.

That would be my thinking too.

31 posted on 02/15/2021 9:52:55 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: dangus
Gab only exists because Twitter and Facebook have driven people away,

Gab would exist with or without Facebook or Twitter driving conservatives away. There have always been conservative media going back to long before Facebook and Twitter were founded and long before the internet was even invented.

using Section 230 as a pretext.

Facebook and Twitter are not banning conservatives because of section 230. Section 230 actually gives them cover for any posts made on their sites by conservatives or anyone else.
Facebook and Twitter are banning conservatives because they are conservative hating, Trump haters who want to do everything they can to hep the Dems and Biden win elections.
Its as simple as that.

Fix Twitter and Facebook, and Gab has no reason to exist

First of all, nothing can “fix” Facebook or Twitter same as you can't fix a skunk. A skunk will always do what it does, which is stink up the joint.
And secondly Gab is such a pleasant enjoyable place that nobody in his right mind who has been on Gab, will even dream of joig Facebook or Twitter.
Its that simple.

32 posted on 02/15/2021 10:02:30 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: dangus
Network Effect means Gab is forever banished to a niche corner of the market,

Um, no.
See post 29. Gab is set to become a powerhouse. All we need is for top conservatives like Senator Rand Paul, ted Cruz, Congressman Jim Jordan etc plus the big man himself, President Trump to sign up.

It also means that the forces which explain why Twitter and Facebook are so hate-filled against conservative will remain in place so long as they are simultaneously free to censor conservatives, but also free to promote every form of anti-conservative hate that could possibly exist.

I don't really care much what the deranged left post on Twitter or Facebook. I have never been a member of either, thank God for that.
However, I joined Gab first of all the give them traffic and encourage them, only to find out its one of the most pleasant communities one could ever be in, just like FR.
I am really enjoying Gab.

I don't understand, however, why no-one has attempted to strip Facebook and Twitter of Section 230 by arguing that their selective censorships amounts to them having their own voice.

That argument has been made by plenty of conservatives, including Senators Rand Paul and Ted Cruz.

Perhaps the best solution is to reassert that Section 230 protections are offered only when the refusal to censor results in an open political discourse.

The point is, repealing Section 230 under President Trump using that argument would have been great. Under a Dementia Joe presidency with a Dem congress, the Dems will replace 230 with something even worse which will protect Facebook, Twitter and big tech , even while attempting to crush conservative outlets like Gab.
The Dems will never agree to reign in Twitter and Facebook. Those two outfits are the biggest source of propaganda for the Democratic Party.

33 posted on 02/15/2021 10:18:08 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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>> Gab is set to become a powerhouse. <<

Hugely profitable, maybe. Ever able to preach to any audience besides the choir? No.

>> All we need is for top conservatives like Senator Rand Paul, ted Cruz, Congressman Jim Jordan etc plus the big man himself, President Trump to sign up. <<

That they haven’t yet probably says it’s never EVEN going to be able to preach to the choir.


34 posted on 02/15/2021 10:31:25 AM PST by dangus
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Put it this way: 25 years ago, Jim Robinson created a web site for right-wingers to discuss politics with other right-wingers. We don’t need Gab for THAT. What we need is a web site wherein conservatives have a voice within a larger marketplace of ideas.


35 posted on 02/15/2021 10:33:22 AM PST by dangus
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Hugely profitable, maybe. Ever able to preach to any audience besides the choir? No

Well the way things are going, Twitter and Facebook will soon be preaching only to the far left choir.
On the other hand, if President Trump joins Gab, the fake news media and the Trump haters will follow him if only to post garbage in the comments section of his Gabs.
Gab is doing very well in every way right now.

That they haven't yet probably says it's never EVEN going to be able to preach to the choir.

We will see.
I fully expect the power drunk Dem propaganda outfits of Twitter and Facebook to start banning independent thinkers like Rand Paul pretty soon.
Don't forget Rand Paul earlier joined Parler when Twitter kept flagging his totally proper posts. If they can join Parler, they sure as heck can join Gab.

36 posted on 02/15/2021 10:40:40 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: dangus
here is always room for more conservative sites, same as there are plenty of liberal sites.
Not to mention Gab is totally different from Freerepublic.
Gab is like Twitter only far better. You don't have to deal with far left nonsense if you don't want to. They have the block and the mute buttons.
However, Dems and liberals are welcome. Its a free speech site. You can post whether you are liberal or conservative. You can post politically correct or politically incorrect stuff. Andrew Torba has always stressed that point otherwise he will be just like Twitter only the other way round, which is exactly what he doesn't want to be.
37 posted on 02/15/2021 10:47:12 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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I know Gab is VERY different from FR. I only meant we can already preach to the choir. But for all your talk about how Gab is set to become a monster, it has 3 million users. Facebook has 270 million in the U.S. alone and nearly three BILLION worldwide. So if preaching to the choir means preaching, for instance, to the Republican Party, Gab is like preaching to a tiny faction of the Constitution Party.


38 posted on 02/15/2021 11:54:55 AM PST by dangus
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