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To: JimRed
I'm sorry, but there are no socialist-communist-Marxist on Mount Rushmore. But there is a progressive there, see #3.


6 posted on 02/13/2021 8:27:46 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (Public meetings are superior to newspapers)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
I'm sorry, but there are no socialist-communist-Marxist on Mount Rushmore. But there is a progressive there, see #3.

Today's Progressives reject him as too far right.

16 posted on 02/13/2021 10:09:30 PM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

There are two on there, actually: Jefferson was actually a proto-Progressive if Liberty: The God that Failed by Christopher A. Ferrara is of any indication (not to mention sang praises for the Jacobins, the proto-Progressives of his time, even when the other founding fathers started to turn against the Jacobins’ brutality starting with the September Massacres). Heck, there’s even evidence to suggest he flat out LIED about the Jacobins being like us due to being in Paris on the very event that Bastille Day happened on the spot, which had them parading with freshly severed body parts of the guards THEY murdered. In some ways, Roosevelt’s progressive politics were the descendant of Jefferson’s.

It’s actually pretty fortunate that Jefferson was NOT involved in the Constitutional Delegation at the time, as otherwise, we WOULD have had our own French Revolution there, and all that that implies. Heck, he actually helped draft the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen, which is actually part of the reason behind his falling out with John Adams (who despite never setting foot in France during that time turned out to be far more accurate in his analysis of what would actually turn out from THAT event).

Unlike you, I don’t despise Jefferson because he isn’t a progressive. If anything, I despise him because he himself TRIED to implement progressivism long before Roosevelt did. I can also call him a proto-Marxist as well.


26 posted on 02/19/2021 3:46:56 AM PST by otness_e
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