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To: SecAmndmt
And by the way, getting treated after the fact (after stepping on a rusty nail, or after being bitten by a rabid vaxxer?), when there is an immediate heightened risk of illness is not the same as, for example, giving a Hep B shot to a newborn whose Mom is not a prostitute nor an intravenous drug user.

As with every anti-vaxxer, you express desire to wait until a condition occurs and treat it after the fact, instead of preventing it. You would prefer a child to get meningitis (with a high chance of dying or getting severe brain damage) than to vaccinate it against meningococcal disease. Vaccines prevent serious illnesses before they occur.

When I said that you had outed yourself as an anti-vaxxer, I was not saying that I had just learned that you are an anti-vaxxer. What I was saying was that you had revealed that you have the selfish, self-serving anti-science attitudes of every anti-vaxxer. You would never bother taking your child to the doctor for routine preventive care, but you'll count on everyone else taking *their* child so your child won't get sick. And I can point out the deadliness of vaccine preventable diseases all day long, but you don't care one iota about the children who die or are permanently disabled from those diseases. No, you'll still want to spout your anti-vax nonsense.

And invoking God in your anti-vaxxery? Seriously? You claimed that vaccines somehow show lack of faith in our God-given immune systems and then showed your own lack of faith by saying that you take vitamin D and zinc to "strengthen" your immune system! What, you don't have faith in your immune system to handle any challenge? And your answer to my rabies question, that you would, indeed, take the prophylaxis if you get bitten by a rabid animal also shows that you do NOT have complete faith in our natural immune system to handle all challenges.

I have to remind myself, in any discussion with an anti-vaxxer, that my main audience is not the anti-vaxxer who is impervious to any reason or evidence. It is the person who genuinely does not know, and whom I can help to educate to recognize unscientific anti-vaxxery.

38 posted on 02/12/2021 9:50:38 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: exDemMom

“As with every anti-vaxxer, you express desire to wait until a condition occurs and treat it after the fact, instead of preventing it. You would prefer a child to get meningitis (with a high chance of dying or getting severe brain damage) than to vaccinate it against meningococcal disease. Vaccines prevent serious illnesses before they occur.”

No I would prefer that the God-given immune system of the child be optimized using nutrition, and not damaged by vaccination.

“When I said that you had outed yourself as an anti-vaxxer, I was not saying that I had just learned that you are an anti-vaxxer. What I was saying was that you had revealed that you have the selfish, self-serving anti-science attitudes of every anti-vaxxer.”

On the contrary, I am a parent and I am highly intentional in my design of my child’s nutrition and supplementation, because nutrition and supplementation is God’s plan for health and wellness. I don’t think God wants me to inject mercury, aluminum, aborted fetal tissue, squalene or formaldehyde into the bloodstream of my child.

“And invoking God in your anti-vaxxery? Seriously? You claimed that vaccines somehow show lack of faith in our God-given immune systems and then showed your own lack of faith by saying that you take vitamin D and zinc to “strengthen” your immune system! What, you don’t have faith in your immune system to handle any challenge? “

Laughable. I answered above. Nutrition and supplementation are not comparable to injection with the ingredient list of a vaccine.

“I have to remind myself, in any discussion with an anti-vaxxer, that my main audience is not the anti-vaxxer who is impervious to any reason or evidence. It is the person who genuinely does not know, and whom I can help to educate to recognize unscientific anti-vaxxery.”

Yes, educate before you vaccinate. Thank you. Read books both pro- and con-. Don’t ask a pro-vaxxer for the list; do your own reading and research. Don’t be bullied or guilted or made to fear making an independent choice (pro-vaxxers are experts at this). For sure, read Dr. Stephanie Cave’s book. Be sure to ask the pediatrician about the VAERS database, vaccine inserts and the like. Read this book:

Miller’s Review of Critical Vaccine Studies: 400 Important Scientific Papers Summarized for Parents and Researchers 1st Edition (Author Neil Z Miller)

Watch Dr Sherri Tenpenny DO’s videos.


39 posted on 02/12/2021 10:54:48 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: exDemMom

Once again

https://johntreed.com/blogs/john-t-reed-s-news-blog/60887299-intellectually-honest-and-intellectually-dishonest-debate-tactics

#4, #6, #15, #18 in your latest post.

I like how you turn it into an attack on parents who do not accept your “science”.


40 posted on 02/12/2021 11:02:28 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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