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where have I done anything you said? where have I insulted this woman? I'll wait for your answer and apology.

There is so little information about Ashli Babbitt after she was carted away, we are trying to fill in the blanks, best we can.

I have no problem admitting my ignorance. I don't know...that's why you see the question marks or did you even see them?

How about her being in the service 14 years vs 12 years ... which is it ?

Did you watch the whole jayden x video from the shooting on? There were a couple of other videos from different angles...did you see them?

You do know, when she was shot, she was picked up then put back down. Then some "medic" type(guy in green) appeared to be working on her on the floor with a lot of other hands involved. She got man-handled pretty good before the Paramedics were on the scene.

Is it possible, just possible, that all that movement wrecks what you think you know?
"The woman was shot in the neck, it hit her spine in the cervical area, I know this because of the position of her hands as she laid, she was “posturing”, indicating Neurogenic Shock."
Near as I see it, looked like her hands were put in that position...as good a guess as yours.

Nobody verified she was shot in the spine much less the neck, though the placement of a bandage by a cop looks to be in the neck area. There is some conjecture she was shot in the chest...no verification. Conjecture also she was dead before they put her on the gurney.

But you can make, with absolute certainty, a triage\diagnosis after all that movement?

https://nypost.com/2021/01/27/ashli-babbitt-new-details-reveal-chaotic-moments-before-shooting/

Interview with one of the guys breaking the windows - was right there when she was shot. Says she was shot in the chest.
“On the evening of Jan. 6, Grider spoke to a local Texas television station and said the mob of Trump supporters in the Capitol were stunned when Babbitt was killed.They were shocked as everyone else was when the people on the other side of the door, from 20 feet away, shot her in the chest,” he said in the interview.

This guy was right there when she was shot and said she was shot in the neck

https://www.express.co.uk/videos/6220979026001/Washington-Witness-discusses-shooting-in-Capitol-Building

We generally post stuff here, sometimes not knowing what's right or wrong - then the rest of us start digging to find out what's what.
When in doubt, post it and we'll figure it out.

Yet, with all your intrusions into these running Q threads, you haven't figured that out?

I am amazed what I find out when I think I know it all. Seems like you might be in the same boat ?

Now would be a good time to apologize...

I do apologize for the first line in the original post, implying anyone is stupid.

It was stupid of me.

There was another thread going on the main regarding Ashli.

I now do realize that something that is common to me, isn’t really common to others.

Again, I should not have said anyone is stupid. I’m sorry for that.

Ashli’s hands were up in the air, she had a bit of dragon claw going on.
Finger tips pointed towards her face.
This lasted for less than approx 30 seconds (have not timed it).
Then her breathing stopped, then her heart.

I can’t speak about the way she was moved. I would not have moved her in that manner. Clearly untrained people were involved.

Sadly, Ashli did not live very long. Probably from gunshot to death was approx 2 minutes.

There are I think at least 5 doctors here on FreeRepublic.
Although they don’t specialize in Emergency Medicine, perhaps they can confirm what I’m saying?

The universal sign that someone is choking, they put both hands up to their throat, almost instantly. They cannot speak.
When you see that, you know right away they’re choking.

The same for many other more complex conditions or injuries.
When I saw Ashli postering in knew right away her spine was involved.

Ashli was dead as they wheeled her out on the stretcher/gurney.
One tech was doing CPR, she had a breathing device at her head.....a BVM, (Bag Valve Mask) that is used to assist or breath for someone.

Again, sadly, the BVM may have been useless if the air being squeezed into her was leaking out of the bullet hole in her neck.
But, CPR continued.
There was not E.T. Tube placed and no I.V. Started.
That tells me the unit was a Basic Life Support and not advanced.

Therefore, in most Medical Authorities a Basic Unit can not stopped CPR or “bagging” a patient (using a BVM) until a Doctor gives the order or sees the patient. Even if the patient is dead beyond doubt.

An Advance Life Support unit can call a patient deceased, for various reasons, one being the equipment we use (much is like a hospitals equipment only portable) and we can send telemetry to the hospital for the Doc to agree the patient is deceased.

I’m far from knowing it all.......but I’m an expert in what I did for many many years and thousands of patients.

If the topic was rebuilding a transmission, avocado recipes, computer code, or business tax filings........I have zero to add.

I hope I helped.
Again, sorry the original comment.
Have a great day.