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A brief history of vaccine screw-ups: Vaccines have a more spotty history than many believe
American Thinker ^ | 02/04/2021 | Erwin Haas, MD

Posted on 02/04/2021 11:32:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: GailA
I have a co-worker whose daughter was active in karate and equestrian sports. After the Gardasil vax, she developed PoTS (Positional Tachycardia Syndrome). She can no longer participate in karate or equestrian sports. She was also a cheer leader. Can't do that anymore either.
21 posted on 02/04/2021 12:44:40 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: GailA

TB and Ebola both have vaccines, though the latter isn’t the most effective thing ever. Ebola also doesn’t spread particularly well. Bubonic plague is fixed with antibiotics. I’d be much more concerned with them flooding in with measles, weird flu strains, and other things that are highly contagious and where we have gaps in coverage.

Some people can’t get vaccines because of medical conditions. A small number choose not to (and then get more vocal about that choice than vegans or people who do CrossFit). Some have been vaccinated, but have virtually no immune system due to HIV/AIDS, automimmune disorder treatments, or cancer treatments. The last thing any of those people need are some infected persons sneaking into the country spreading stuff around.


22 posted on 02/04/2021 1:16:46 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: G Larry
"(Which they have NOT accomplished with COVID)"

This myth really needs to die. Of course the virus has been isolated. It was isolated back in December 2019. It's been imaged directly. It's had its entire genome mapped out. We know every piece of SARS-CoV-2, enough to know when any single amino acid changes (i.e. the variants of concern). Several vaccine candidates have been developed using inactivated versions of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

"They have only "sequenced" the virus, which is NOT sufficient to produce a true vaccine."

Sequencing the virus means you have all its proteins. You can then produce those proteins and see which ones trigger immune response. Once you know that, you can produce gen 2 (recombinant) or gen 3 (mRNA) vaccines.

Repeating demonstrably false information doesn't make it true, but it does make it a sin once you're aware it's false.

23 posted on 02/04/2021 1:22:01 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: TheConservativeBanker
At about 12 months old (1951) I contracted diphtheria and scarlet fever at the same time.

Around that same period, I had a serious reaction to a diphtheria/tetanus shot as a toddler. The worst night my fever went up to 105 and 106. But I took all the other subsequent vaccinations over the years with no noticeable reactions.

24 posted on 02/04/2021 1:50:27 PM PST by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

You can have my dose.


25 posted on 02/04/2021 2:40:48 PM PST by G Larry (Authority is vested in those to whom it applies.)
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To: diatomite

That’s funny.


26 posted on 02/04/2021 2:42:22 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys )
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To: G Larry

I’ve already had it, but thank you.

My left arm (injection point) was sore for a couple of days. No big deal. I’ve seen too many who would have gladly traded their experience with the disease for a sore arm.


27 posted on 02/04/2021 2:45:17 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Heard too many verified stories about those who both got the 2 doses of the vaccine and still got COVID.

Not to mention all the other negative reactions.

28 posted on 02/04/2021 2:55:17 PM PST by G Larry (Authority is vested in those to whom it applies.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Your post #6: Thanks for injecting sanity into this emotional topic. And I agree 100%.


29 posted on 02/04/2021 3:28:59 PM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now!)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Polio: gone

Actually as an exception, polio is not gone, much due to a mistake in Africa

2018: Every year, hundreds of people across Africa are still being infected with circulating vaccine-derived poliovirus, which can infect people in areas where there is only partial vaccination. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/07/polio-outbreaks-congo-threaten-global-eradication

2020. Every year, hundreds of people across Africa are still being infected with circulating vaccine-derived poliovirus, which can infect people in areas where there is only partial vaccination.- https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/24/world/africa/polio-africa-eradicated.html

Smallpox: gone. Polio: gone. Measles: gone. Pertussis (Whooping Cough): gone. Mumps: gone. Rubella: gone. Diphtheria: gone. Tetanus: gone. Varicella (chickenpox): gone. Millions of lives saved. Millions saved from lifelong disability and/or disfigurement. About 1 in a million have a noteworthy reaction to a vaccine and most of those self-resolve in days or weeks. Sadly, some do suffer ill effects. But do you take a 0.00001% chance of a bad outcome to avoid a .5% chance of a bad outcome? Nearly everyone will gladly take those odds. And even now, we continue to improve vaccine safety. Just in the past couple years, flu shots that no longer carry a risk of chicken egg allergies became available.

Thank God, yet antivaccers I have heard lump all vaccines together as evil.

30 posted on 02/04/2021 4:17:47 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned + destitute sinner + trust Him to save + be baptized+follow Him!)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

If this “virus” has been isolated, could you find a picture of it? I’ve looked and can’t find any.


31 posted on 02/04/2021 4:41:23 PM PST by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: Auntie Mame
Certainly!

The above images are all from the United States National Institutes of Health Rocky Mountain Laboratories. Each of them is a transmission electron micrograph of SARS-CoV-2 virus particles, isolated from a patient and color-enhanced at the NIAID Integrated Research Facility (IRF) in Fort Detrick, Maryland. More info about them available at this NIH site

A scanning electron microscope produced the following images (source):

Plenty of other images from many independent sources also exist that show the SARS-CoV-2 virions directly. Further, we have the complete genetic sequences for SARS-CoV-2, so we can tell right down to the protein structure and amino acid composition how and where this virus differs from other similar viruses. This has been very well documented throughout the scientific literature for a year now.

The virus has long since been isolated, studied, and sequenced. We know pretty much everything there is to know about it. It's real. It exists. It's nothing like the flu. It's very similar to SARS-CoV-1 (SARS 2003) and MERS-CoV (MERS 2012), but it spreads more effectively and kills far less often and less quickly. Both traits combine to enable it to be successful on a global scale in a way that SARS 2003 and MERS 2012 never were.

32 posted on 02/04/2021 10:13:26 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: daniel1212
"Actually as an exception, polio is not gone, much due to a mistake in Africa"

I was referring specifically to the United States as I honestly don't worry so much what happens in other countries. However, you're right that unfortunately money-saving decisions (e.g. cheaping out on the vaccine for Africans) resulted in a small number (a few hundred) impacted by vaccine-derived outbreaks. However, it's important to note two things:

  1. As of 2016, Africa is finally free of wild polio virus. Within the next few years, it's likely polio will join smallpox as having been completely eradicated from the face of the Earth.
  2. Vaccine-derived polio outbreaks in Africa have amounted to about 130-180 cases per year. When the vaccination campaign began, wild polio not only infected millions, but paralyzed 75,000 children each year.

So from 75,000 paralyzed children each year down to ~150 total cases? Even with the cheap vaccine that doesn't do as well, that's a stunning turn-around in just 10 years.

And I still don't know any moms in the US who are worried about polio.

33 posted on 02/04/2021 10:23:10 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
So from 75,000 paralyzed children each year down to ~150 total cases? Even with the cheap vaccine that doesn't do as well, that's a stunning turn-around in just 10 years.

Yes, but a few hundred from by vaccine-derived outbreaks is tragic and provides fodder for anti-vaccers.

And I still don't know any moms in the US who are worried about polio.

Nor overall the other diseases you list, while the most virulent "diseases" is that of liberalism and which is of the heart, and with the evangelical gospel being the effective prophylactic, thank God.

34 posted on 02/05/2021 4:47:38 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned + destitute sinner + trust Him to save + be baptized+follow Him!)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Thanks for finding those for me.


35 posted on 02/06/2021 11:20:55 AM PST by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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