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The Down Side to Life in a Supertall Tower: Leaks, Creaks, Breaks
DNYUZ ^ | 3 Feb 2021 | Susan Beachy

Posted on 02/03/2021 6:39:53 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT

The nearly 1,400-foot tower at 432 Park Avenue, briefly the tallest residential building in the world, ...

The claims include: millions of dollars of water damage from plumbing and mechanical issues; frequent elevator malfunctions; and walls that creak like the galley of a ship — all of which may be connected to the building’s main selling point: its immense height...

Engineers privy to some of the disputes say many of the same issues are occurring quietly in other new towers.

...identity of virtually all the buyers were concealed by shell companies.

The 96th floor penthouse at the top of the building sold in 2016 for nearly $88 million to a company representing the Saudi retail magnate Fawaz Alhokair.

“They’re still billing it as God’s.gif”>t to the world, and it’s not.”

“They put me in a freight elevator surrounded by steel plates and plywood, with a hard-hat operator,” she said. “That’s how I went up to my hoity-toity apartment before closing.”

“a high-wind condition” stopped an elevator and caused a resident to be “entrapped” on the evening of Oct. 31, 2019 for 1 hour and 25 minutes. Wind sway can cause the cables in the elevator shaft to slap around and lead to slowdowns or shutdowns, according to an engineer who asked not to be named...

Some residents also railed against surging fees at the building’s private restaurant, overseen by the Michelin-star chef, Shaun Hergatt. When the building opened in late 2015, homeowners were required to spend $1,200 a year on the service; in 2021, that requirement jumps to $15,000, despite limited hours of operation because of the pandemic. And breakfast is no longer free.

“Everybody hates each other here,” she said, but, for the most part, residents want to keep the squabbling out of the public eye.

(Excerpt) Read more at dnyuz.com ...


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To: ConservativeMind

How many blocks away?


61 posted on 02/03/2021 9:32:54 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Vaduz

“9/11 cured me of going into tall buildings.”

The crime, craziness, congestion...cured me of going into the city.

Since retired, have not returned.


62 posted on 02/03/2021 9:34:03 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: one guy in new jersey

Six blocks, as the crow flies.

Looking through binoculars from the top of 30 Rockefeller makes it seem a lot closer.


63 posted on 02/03/2021 9:39:41 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Thank You Rush

I have a friend who lives in a high-rise in NYC. He has N ongoing war with the super. He also has a source of used bowling balls. Once and a while one of the balls will find it’s way into the building’s waste chute. Makes a helluva racket and has been know to knock bottoms out of the chute when it hits an incline.


64 posted on 02/03/2021 9:43:45 AM PST by .44 Special (Tiamid Buacach!)
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To: RoosterRedux
Perfect for sheiks needing to pitch their filipino maids/girfriends/ concubines/ side dishes/sex slaves/ blackmail attemptees and of course all the underage boys in similar employ.

Hell you could get one to open your latest favorite vintage, shove him/her out the window and enjoy a glass before he or she even hits the concrete.

65 posted on 02/03/2021 9:50:59 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: one guy in new jersey

I’m disqualified. I used to run down the East River from 79th St to the bridge and back several times after work each day (weather permitting).


66 posted on 02/03/2021 9:51:32 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Not only that but that’s an ugly boring building to boot.


67 posted on 02/03/2021 9:51:50 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Larry Lucido
You won't get Chinese food if your name is on the list.


68 posted on 02/03/2021 9:58:27 AM PST by Rebelbase (COVID misanthrope)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Sound advice indeed.


69 posted on 02/03/2021 10:05:13 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“Everybody hates each other here,”

Who doesn’t want to spend tens of millions of dollars to be surrounded by people who hate you?


70 posted on 02/03/2021 10:12:55 AM PST by Rebelbase (COVID misanthrope)
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To: PeterPrinciple
because they are all sellers...

LOL - you could be right...

71 posted on 02/03/2021 10:13:21 AM PST by GOPJ (How soon until we're forced to wear red MAGA stars on our clothing?)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

They probably HATE TRUMP so much that they wouldn’t trust him building their tower. Now they see the results of their hate...


72 posted on 02/03/2021 11:05:50 AM PST by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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To: Thank You Rush

“I’ll save others the trouble of wondering what the heck city they’re talking about - should have (expected) it...”

It will always end the same, yet people simply WILL NOT LEARN. NYC was a great place under Rudy and even Bloomberg - they had no room for the old-normal in NYC (drugs, killings, wrap, etc.). Then they elect Delblasio and the city goes into the tank. One would think that people putting down 8 figure sums for condos would consider the implications of Delblasio for their ‘investments’...and get the hell out. But nope, the idiots stay put, and lose their shirts.

Love it.


73 posted on 02/03/2021 11:14:15 AM PST by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I watched a fascinating documentary about this particular building while it was under construction. An engineering marvel...
They had to pour 5ft thick concrete slab on top of the building to create more force and make the building more rigid. the concrete pour had to happen in one go. Quite a challenge to get trucks in time through the NYC traffic, unload them at the base of the building and get the concrete quickly to the top.

However, no matter how reassuring were structural engineers about building’s integrity and measures taken to prevent building swaying in wind (including extensive aerodynamic modeling in wind tunnel) , just one look at the building from a distance shows a too-elongated pencil shape that does not instill confidence that all is well with the design.


74 posted on 02/03/2021 11:14:52 AM PST by nosf40
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To: Rebelbase
They also don't deliver below 86th street.

OWNER: That's southside. Sorry, we don't deliver below Eighty-sixth.

ELAINE: I'm not below.

OWNER: Yes you are. Street itself is boundary.

ELAINE: Your guy can't cross to my side?

OWNER: If we deliver to you, then what? Eighty-fifth Street, Wall Street, Mexico, Eighty-fourth Street.

ELAINE: Alright, fine. I'll just cross and meet him.

OWNER: Sorry, food only for those who live within boundary. (slams down phone)

75 posted on 02/03/2021 12:04:06 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: .44 Special

And the bowling ball goes all the way DOWN to the bottom - rumble, rumble on the way? Love it!


76 posted on 02/03/2021 2:23:22 PM PST by Thank You Rush ( )
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To: Thank You Rush

“The nearly 1,400-foot tower at 432 Park Avenue,”

I wouldn’t think all that many cities have both 1,400 ft apartment towers and a prominent residential street called Park Avenue.


77 posted on 02/03/2021 6:28:47 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: one guy in new jersey
Who, from outside the area, can name the bridge in the photo, to the right of the building?

The George Washington bridge?

78 posted on 02/03/2021 6:50:07 PM PST by IndyTiger
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To: IndyTiger

Yep.


79 posted on 02/04/2021 5:15:40 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: ConservativeMind

Seen any actual people?


80 posted on 02/04/2021 5:16:35 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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