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How does Johnson & Johnson's COVID-19 vaccine stack up against shots from Pfizer and Moderna?
Business Insider via MSN ^ | 02/01/2021 | Hilary Brueck

Posted on 02/01/2021 6:06:35 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Mears

The answer to all those questions is NO.


101 posted on 02/01/2021 9:54:56 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List )
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To: SeekAndFind
Another interesting question is this — were the subjects ever exposed to the Covid-19 virus during these 49 days?

Of course. That's what the unvaccinated "placebo" (control) group is for. The two groups, vac'd and control, are each large and as identical as possible, including dispersal in a community in which community spread is ongoing at a strong rate. So, both groups should develop the same number of cases, but the degree to which the vac'd group does not develop as many cases as the control group determines the efficacy of the vaccine in the trial. The more cases in the control group, the greater the reliability of the results.

I imagine quite a bit of other tracking of subjects goes on as well.

In a different arena, my family is experiencing a containment effort right now. Several positive test results have popped up at the high school my daughter goes to -- students tested after an initial case appeared. This despite what looks to me like about as much prevention as can be practically applied, given PPE availability, in place. So, now a lot of tracking, contact tracing, and monitoring is going on. My wife got 3 e-mails on the subject just today, updating the situation, urging anyone with symptoms to quarantine and get tested, etc. Just how far this goes before the school reverts back to online learning I do not know. Hopefully the kids can stay in-classrooms, but I can't even hazard a guess as to the odds of that. :-(

102 posted on 02/01/2021 10:24:54 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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Adenovirus based technology in development of vaccines for COVID.

https://cen.acs.org/pharmaceuticals/vaccines/Adenoviral-vectors-new-COVID-19/98/i19


103 posted on 02/01/2021 10:51:11 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: P-Marlowe; Mears
After your second dose will you be immune?

After a few weeks your odds of serious illness will have dropped dramatically compared to being un-vaccinated.

Can you go out without a mask?

Once most of the moderate-to-high risk population has gained immunity, masks mandates are unwarranted (but I would hope better education could commence.) However, in whacko-lib areas, who knows.

Can you eat in a restaurant? Can you sing in church? Can you go to public school?

Same answer as for "mask mandates".

Or will you be in the same boat with us HCQ Zinc advocates?

Pending more data, I might take HCQ / Zinc at the 1st sign of symptoms even if vaccinated. Who wants even an average cold? (I consider myself @ moderate risk of serious COVID-19 if not vaccinated and exposed, @ moderate risk of a "moderate COVID-19 cold" if vaccinated and exposed.)

104 posted on 02/01/2021 11:09:17 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Joshua

Some die the same day while other 2 weeks later. No need to wait too long for the democrats to blame something else.
Look at Cuomo in New York, lying about what he and other democrats did by killing 10’s of thousands of people in nursing homes deliberately.


105 posted on 02/01/2021 11:09:33 PM PST by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Note: the J&J vaccine is made the old fashioned way with no mRNA modifications.


106 posted on 02/02/2021 4:06:15 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

We’ve been lied to a lot, but to try to totally dismiss it is insane.


107 posted on 02/02/2021 5:15:25 AM PST by trebb (Fight like your life and future depends on it - because they do.)
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To: Paladin2

“...as zero COVID-19 cases were reported in patients who’d been vaccinated for 49 days or more.”

What? Are they getting vaccinated every day, every other day?


108 posted on 02/02/2021 5:47:48 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

What if the gurus is real and killing people in front of us every day ? Look it up. Better yet done to an ICU and see for yourself. We wouldn’t even make you wear PPE for this imaginary illness


109 posted on 02/02/2021 5:52:02 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: alexandriagreen

“..Johnson and Johnson was found guilty of knowing asbestos was in their baby powder. ..”

Plus Johnson and Johnson uses aborted fetal cell lines (unless they changed their methods).


110 posted on 02/02/2021 5:52:46 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: plain talk

It may have more use in third world countries where the refrigeration necessary for the moderna and pfizer vaccines does not exist


111 posted on 02/02/2021 5:53:07 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: volunbeer

“How exactly is the vaccine supposed to help us?”

The point is ensuring your obedience and as a further method of control.


112 posted on 02/02/2021 6:50:10 AM PST by dljordan
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To: gas_dr

Thanks. All is good on the homefront!


113 posted on 02/02/2021 7:08:18 AM PST by Vermont Lt (We have entered "Insanity Week." Act accordingly.)
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To: gas_dr

“The vaccines are neither expiremtal nor investigational”

They are experimental and/or investigational. Not FDA approved. No long term testing.

Friend of mine has a father in law in hospital with cv19. The attending MD is refusing to do any treatment that the family is requesting for FIL. He’s dying. Another murder by conventional medicine. My friend is kicking herself because she did not offer the home treatment. Hopefully her attorney, a Christian/conservative, can end the MDs medical career with a nice fat lawsuit. But of course, the medical establishment will circle around and defend “standard of care”.

PS. She reports that when she first spoke to this physician, he was reading off the wrong person’s chart. A$$hole MD told her that the patient had too many comorbidities and basically deserved to die. What bedside manner! What ethics! One can imagine their horror...until they realized that the idiot was talking about someone else. But based on my experience with my own ex-inlaws, all MDs, par for the course.


114 posted on 02/02/2021 7:11:53 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: Joshua

“Sometimes I wonder if this vaccine was approved just to clean up the gene pool”

Or the ego and arrogance pool.


115 posted on 02/02/2021 7:17:32 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: SeekAndFind

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/frontline-doctors-experimental-vaccines-not-safer-than-covid-19


116 posted on 02/02/2021 7:23:06 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: Vermont Lt

I guess I’d rather be turned into a Cardassian than a Kardashian. /s

It may be a moot point. My county’s Health Dept. website presently displays, for any date chosen for a COVID-19 appt: “No appointments are available this month”.


117 posted on 02/02/2021 8:31:07 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Mom MD

Never said it was not real, the question is what is it and how does it work.
My question is have the scientists made too many assumptions on this.

Also what has happened to the Flu, it did not go away, is it all now just classified as Covid?

Are the vaccines really safe and effective or are they a guess, much like the flu shots. Will you have to take them every year?

I think going back and restudying the Diamond Princess Data may yield more insight.


118 posted on 02/02/2021 9:31:46 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1&;page)
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To: gas_dr

I do my own research, I just question a lot of what is being put out there by the so called experts at the NIH, CDC, and WHO.


119 posted on 02/02/2021 9:33:36 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1&;page)
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To: SecAmndmt

It seems sad that you paint with a broad brush. There are bad members of every profession. That does not generalize to all members of the profession


120 posted on 02/02/2021 10:40:53 AM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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