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To: Kartographer
If buying creates excess counterparty risk, but selling doesn't, WHO'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRANSATCTION? ONe hand can't clap. Somebody has to buy the trade.

This is the part that's been bothering me for a few days now. Do they mean you can put up for sale, but allow no buyers? So the only effect is to drive the price down.

This way they can drive any publicly traded business to bankruptcy, unless they (wink, wink) follow the new Dem Left totalitarian control. Freedom? Ha ha...

5 posted on 01/30/2021 7:32:37 AM PST by jeffc (I'm a Patriot, and the media are our enemy)
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To: jeffc

Think less political. They do it for financial control. As I understand it, Thursday they did this to drive price down to allow short sellers to make contract purchases. Otherwise they’d have lost billions more.

They risked jail to keep from losing everything.


7 posted on 01/30/2021 7:35:03 AM PST by Bogey78O (So far so good.)
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To: jeffc

The discussion is actually over who gets to buy. By suspending certain trading venues from buying, small traders are impeded and Gamestop stock being sold is thereby directed to desperate short seller hedge funds.


14 posted on 01/30/2021 7:51:37 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: jeffc; RinaseaofDs

” buying creates excess counterparty risk, but selling doesn’t, WHO’S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRANSATCTION? ONe hand can’t clap. Somebody has to buy the trade.

This is the part that’s been bothering me for a few days now. Do they mean you can put up for sale, but allow no buyers? So the only effect is to drive the price down.”

The only thing I can figure is that the counter party in this case is the clearing house itself. There are not two parties to a trade but three - the seller, the clearing house and the buyer.

Because Citadel sold and/or lent stocks they didn’t have, now they are desperate to buy them at ridiculous because the prices are going to get even more ridiculous.


37 posted on 01/30/2021 8:37:58 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: jeffc
This way they can drive any publicly traded business to bankruptcy, unless they (wink, wink) follow the new Dem Left totalitarian control. Freedom? Ha ha...

Companies don't depend on their stock price to generate revenue, so even if the stock price drops to $0, the company is still there, and functioning exactly the same. The reason to hugely short a company is, by driving the stock price crazy low (especially when the company financials don't justify the low valuation), the hedge or other investor can buy a ton of the stock for crazy cheap, and gaining a majority stake means they takeover ownership of the company by force.

The only times a stock price really affects a company's actual money is an IPO, buybacks, or issuing more shares.
65 posted on 01/30/2021 10:42:15 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: jeffc

“This way they can drive any publicly traded business to bankruptcy”

Once the company issues shares, shareholders are mainly a legacy issue. If there’s money to pay a dividend, that’s good, if not, that’s OK.

Paying the executives is the most important concern.


72 posted on 01/30/2021 11:12:16 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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