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To: ConservativeMind

Perhaps I chose the wrong place to put this. I’ll refer back to the guidelines. Sometimes I get ahead of myself.

This vaccination stuff is irking me and I have many that I care about greatly in line to get vaccinated.

And, now it appears that the CDC has stopped tracking as of 1/6/21 bad reactions to the vaccines.

Put this on top of the few months of testing as relates to the efficacy of a novel mRNA based vaccine whose long term affects are unknown and whose T and B cell memory is unknown and I am concerned (subject for another day).

To date! the underlying date associated with the clinical studies for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines has yet to be revealed. You see the results. You see the data which underlie the results. But, you do not see, the totality of the data. So the pool of data, is actually a baby pool, if you will, as they publish only that data which was used to come up with there results. Data set 100. Data set published - only that 50 which underlies the results. This is an example.

And where is the methodology? Where is the pre-screening? Where is the follow up the discussion of confounding factors? Where is anything dammit, where you are about to vaccinate 100s of millions if not billions. Where is the data regarding long term effects. Wait it doesn’t exist because it cannot exist because it was tested for all of, I don’t know, under a hundred days.

I have children, and apparently this vaccine may, because we don’t know, may cause the body to attack the placenta or the ..... . You say show me the evidence? That is not the burden of proof here!

So news and activism, maybe that is the wrong place. Maybe it should be in the “be careful” fricking section.


11 posted on 01/24/2021 9:10:54 PM PST by Nogara
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To: Nogara

All vaccines carry a risk. (All medications carry a risk.)
New vaccines carry a greater risk.
These vaccines have been rushed, so the risk is even greater.
These vaccines have been approved for emergency use, reinforcing the previous point.
This is a fundamentally different type of vaccine, so the risk is even greater (especially the long-term risk).

Taking all that into account, great caution should be observed in using these vaccines. The risk must be balanced against the benefit. Covid-19 IS deadly. It is like a bad flu, probably even a VERY bad flu. But it is not comparable to the 1918/1919 pandemic. It is therefore highly questionable whether it is justifiable for large numbers of people to be vaccinated, especially the young and healthy. And even more questionable whether vaccination should be compulsory.

I would suggest a slower vaccination program - voluntary, health workers, the elderly and those with comorbidities - and then closely monitor for adverse reactions, increasing the speed of vaccination if these are relatively few and minor.


21 posted on 01/24/2021 10:27:45 PM PST by Mr Information
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