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New coronavirus variants could cause more reinfections, require updated vaccines
Science Mag ^ | 01/15/2021 | Kai Kupferschmidt

Posted on 01/19/2021 9:05:57 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: norcal joe
"...further increases in transmission can tip us over the edge where the system collapses. Then we'll start seeing potentially huge increases in mortality."

Haven't we heard that somewhere before - as we were being urged, last March, to accept draconian measures "for just a few weeks?"

Regards,

21 posted on 01/19/2021 11:02:34 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: SeekAndFind

In another 10 years or so, we’re going to have to stay on a vaccine IV.


22 posted on 01/19/2021 11:11:09 PM PST by ALASKA (Trump will win resoundingly, but it's not going to be pretty. )
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m reminded of Tom Clancy’s book Rainbow Six.🤔


23 posted on 01/19/2021 11:11:23 PM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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Of course they will - ‘emergency actions’ override all laws ...

OR NOT.


24 posted on 01/19/2021 11:59:00 PM PST by elbook
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Haven’t quite yet mastered the DNA mutations...


25 posted on 01/20/2021 1:28:02 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: cgbg

Exactly right. As a PhD scientist I wonder about the capacity of the Dims to understand this article. I think they can’t and won’t...it is not a part of their nature to be logical and demand data to prove or disprove a point.

The vaccine hullaballu is a means for Fauci and others to exert a continuing tightening of control over people everywhere in all groups larger than “2”.

The Covid-19 vaccine is basically as useless as the “flu” vaccine for exactly the same reasons.

i suppose I shouldn’t assume an educated-in-the-most-basic- aspects-of-science population. Sigh.


26 posted on 01/20/2021 3:54:55 AM PST by Bodega ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

Deep State continues to feed lies


27 posted on 01/20/2021 4:16:59 AM PST by Steven Tyler (President Elect Steven Tyler)
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To: SeekAndFind

We have achieved here immunity in our family the natural way.

Got it. Kicked it.


28 posted on 01/20/2021 4:57:54 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Except you are only immune for about 3 months, they say.

My nephew got it last April, got it again last month. He was much sicker this go around. If it is truly what he had each time, who knows?

29 posted on 01/20/2021 5:04:25 AM PST by riri (Hope is not a strategy at this point- Sam Andrews)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yep - they got the wedge in and now they will apply leverage as needed to make Covid the bug that enslaved the world.


30 posted on 01/20/2021 5:12:28 AM PST by trebb (Fight like your life and future depends on it - because they do.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Beware any headline spouting words like “could”, or “might”, or “if”. All that means is that the so-called “experts” don’t know anything more than you do, they’re just trying to sensationalize their own ignorance.


31 posted on 01/20/2021 5:27:32 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not discussed in this article is that which is glaringly omitted in spite of subtle clues.

When the B.1.1.7 ‘variant’ was first discovered, it was reported as the UK variant. Same for 501Y.V2 as the South African variant. There was no mention of numbers. Listen carefully to reports; all you’ll hear now are numbers.

Why the sudden change to numbers?

Well, we can’t have the virus referred to by its geographical origin, now can we? /s

(China virus)


32 posted on 01/20/2021 5:41:00 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: riri

“ Except you are only immune for about 3 months, they say.
My nephew got it last April, got it again last month. He was much sicker this go around. If it is truly what he had each time, who knows?”

Then same with the vaccine.

Who is signing up for a quarterly vaccine?

With the high false positive rates on the test, no one knows if they had it unless they test for antibodies.

We continue with our protocol, maintaining our immune system, and with ivermectin in our pocket in case.


33 posted on 01/20/2021 5:52:13 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... )
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To: SeekAndFind

It is my understanding tht the current vaccines do not contain the desd or weakened covid virus but rather protein/s that enable the covid virus to attach. Absent the protein, the virus is rendered unable to actually attack the body

If that is so, then a covid mutation would not affect the efficacy of the vaccine?


34 posted on 01/20/2021 5:56:46 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) History: Pelosi was pitiful vindictive California crone)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I don't know what to believe.

I tend to think they had the flu.

My sister, much older than me (60s), got very sick and is having residual lung issues.

Ofcourse, I don't know if it is just a lot of it is over thinking and hypervigilance. I had H1N1 about 6-7 years ago. We all did except my daughter who got it two years before.

If I got that today, with Covid, I'd be sure I was dying. It took us all a solid 6 weeks to fully get over it.

Here's a strange one about my family (all in NY, btw). Two sides of the family, two separate infections that started about the same time.

Everyone got sick except my brother-in-law and his brother. Both in their 60s as well.

So, that tells us, if Covid, one of three things:

1. Both didn't come in contact with the virus in their homes and workplace (one has a family business) Seems doubtful.

2. They both had some form of immunity (flu?)

3. There is a genetic component.

35 posted on 01/20/2021 6:03:37 AM PST by riri (Hope is not a strategy at this point- Sam Andrews)
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To: riri

Vitamin D levels in blood - differences


36 posted on 01/20/2021 6:15:59 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... )
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To: bert

RE: It is my understanding tht the current vaccines do not contain the desd or weakened covid virus but rather protein/s that enable the covid virus to attach.

I believe the Chinese Sinovac vaccine does use a dead or inactivated Covid virus. But in Brazil where it was tested on tens of thousands, it was only found to be a little over 50% effective.

Johnson and Johnson also uses the same inactivated/dead virus, but it’s still in its final phases of testing and won’t be available for EUA approval till late February.


37 posted on 01/20/2021 6:22:00 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines in current use are not subject to obsolescence from genetic mutation in the COVID-19 virus. These vaccines target the virus’ “spike proteins”. Spike proteins are COVID-19’s means of accessing cellular ACE-2 receptors to enter cells. Until this virus can mutate specific aspects of the spike proteins it’s doomed.

The hype over mutations is unfounded fear mongering. Thanks to Trump we will climb out of this abyss regardless of the mutations.


38 posted on 01/20/2021 7:11:31 AM PST by nagant
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