[crz]

“It is not denied that there may be cases in which a respect to the general principles of LIBERTY, the essential RIGHTS of the people, or the overruling sentiments of humanity, might require a government, whether new or old, to be treated as an ILLEGITIMATE despotism.”

James Madison

So, whats your opinion? Better to belong to a despotism or go your own way and seek out individual liberty under a new nation that favors that?

[Verginius Rufus]

During the New York ratifying convention in 1788, which narrowly voted for ratification, someone wrote to Madison to the effect that New York might ratify on the proviso that a Bill of Rights be added (but then repeal the ratification if it wasn't), but Madison wrote that a ratification could not be rescinded. (Don't remember the exact terms used, but to that effect.)

I believe that during the first week of the first meeting of Congress in 1789, a Congressman from South Carolina threatened secession.

During the War of 1812 there was sentiment for secession in the New England states.