[DiogenesLamp]

You will have to explain the point you are trying to make here. Lincoln established that might makes right. This is not a legal argument to prove secession was illegal.

For that you have to start with the founding documents.

[Kevmo]

So you’re on both sides of this issue. Seems appropriate for someone naming himself after Diogeneses.

You don’t realize it , but that is YOUR bias. Heavily strong bias to fall into the middle.

[moehoward]

I was just countering the quote from Alberta’s Child from the same speech.

“For that you have to start with the founding documents.”

Well, yes. But their actions spoke louder than any words. Looking for legal permission to secede? The founders didn’t. They did justify it and I’d say we are pretty close in the justification department.