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These thoughts have been on my mind for quite some time now. I'd like to hear your thoughts as well.
1 posted on 01/19/2021 4:38:09 PM PST by rfreedom4u
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No. Next question.


37 posted on 01/19/2021 5:03:32 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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Haiti seceded from the French empire through a slave revolt. South Sudan broke from Sudan. Yugoslavia broke into several countries and later Kosovo seceded from Serbia. Czechoslovakia split into two countries. The Soviet split into quite a few countries. The UK left the European Union. And many others….

Maine seceded from Massachusetts, Tennessee seceded from North Carolina, Kentucky seceded from Virginia, Vermont seceded from both New York and New Hampshire.

38 posted on 01/19/2021 5:03:33 PM PST by SeeSharp
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We will overwhelming take back the Congress and expel Seattle, Portland & SF

FORCE them to join Canada


40 posted on 01/19/2021 5:04:19 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ) )
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Does it matter if it’s “legal?”


43 posted on 01/19/2021 5:06:34 PM PST by ScottinVA (Enough. Divide the country.. now.)
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Yes it’s legal. Just call the feds and let them know we are leaving. Of course it would help if a few like minded states joined in.
The country has become to populous to have 600 people in DC tell 350 million what to do and how to live their lives and how much of our labor we will be allowed to keep.
At the time of the constitution the US had a population about the size of Ct.


44 posted on 01/19/2021 5:07:59 PM PST by freedomlver
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So the rats can add states and territories, but none can leave?


46 posted on 01/19/2021 5:08:16 PM PST by Fido969 (,i.)
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Does not matter.

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

They show NO respect for the laws of this country.

I need not even attempt to show any for them.

I know.... you want to be polite.

I don't care any more.

47 posted on 01/19/2021 5:08:43 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Dear Clare, The awkward time is almost over. Love, Normal Americans)
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Abortion is “legal.” When the bullets fly, there isn’t going to be much heed paid to what passes the “legality” muster.


48 posted on 01/19/2021 5:09:47 PM PST by ScottinVA (Enough. Divide the country.. now.)
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Its legal if you win.


49 posted on 01/19/2021 5:11:25 PM PST by Husker24
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I think there will be many micro-secessions - predominantly white, middle class, and conservative neighborhoods or towns who simply refuse to follow any unconstitutional directives from state or local governments. Who will then have a choice to make: crush the rebels and endure the bad optics or ignore the problem and focus harder on looting wealthy, liberal areas.

At first, they will pick the second option - but future desperation might drive them to attempt the first.

52 posted on 01/19/2021 5:12:49 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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Secession is legal if you can exercise the power, military or otherwise, to make it stick.


54 posted on 01/19/2021 5:13:49 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy (I'd rather have one king 3000 miles away that 3000 kings one mile away)
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There may be an easier way.

The greater Idaho is not secession, but counties from Oregone and Californicator joining Idaho making it Greater Idaho.

https://www.opb.org/article/2020/11/16/two-oregon-counties-voted-to-look-at-joining-idaho-now-what/


55 posted on 01/19/2021 5:14:27 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Law & order took the last train out of DC and Ameriica on election/coup/night, Tues., Nov. 03, 2020!)
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What will secession do except put a hostile state on our borders?


57 posted on 01/19/2021 5:16:43 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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What legitimate government is there to say what’s legal or illegal?


59 posted on 01/19/2021 5:19:14 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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No. It will never be allowed either.


61 posted on 01/19/2021 5:19:25 PM PST by TexasGunLover
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No it is not legal, but it is what our founding fathers did.

“When in the course of human events it becomes necessary...”


65 posted on 01/19/2021 5:21:46 PM PST by Kevmo (I'm in a slow motion Red Dawn reality TV show. The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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Who cares if its legal?


66 posted on 01/19/2021 5:21:59 PM PST by Baldwin77 (They hated Reagan too ! TRUMP TOUGH - AMERICA STRONG)
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I would support succession...


67 posted on 01/19/2021 5:22:18 PM PST by eeriegeno
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Given that the founders wrote documents describing that when governments fail them the people can form new governments,

And further rw1 was, in effect, the colonies seceding from the uk monarchy/empire

And further considering the appeasements made to certain colonies during the early years to prevent them from breaking away, without mention that they could not break away,

It would be hard for the founders to argue states would not be able to leave the union.

Of course, there are good reasons to leave, and bad ones to leave. Not all reasons are equal. It would also probably depend on what the state(s) were planning to do after leaving, if it would be things aimed at damaging or overthrowing the tates they were leaving.

We also didnt have so much federal ties and holdings in states way back then either, so different issues exist now that did not before.

Further, consider that it is a constitutional right to leave the union. Even if so, it probably would not prevent the union forces from trying to prevent those states from leaving. So we would ultimately have a cwii sitution, almost 100% given.

We have had now two ilegitimate presidents, 1 elected, 1 stolen, and now the current ineligible vp, so its clear our leqers do not give a shiite if things they do are constitutional or not, merely if they want to do something, then they do it.


72 posted on 01/19/2021 5:28:44 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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Reality101:

Texas will VERY soon be overrun by millions & millions of ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS and will, in all likelihood, become North Meeheeco.

The only question is will it occur before 2024 "election"?


73 posted on 01/19/2021 5:29:17 PM PST by newfreep (The Communist/DNC VOTER FRAUD is Trump's ONLY opponent in 2020 election.)
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