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To: MNDude

I’m an unapologetic Trump supporter and I’ll respectfully disagree. While I believe that the Trump movement, as a whole, prefers non-violence. I think that how people participate in this forum is evidence alone that the potential for violence is there. I guess it comes down to what the definition of violence is... breaking windows, trespassing, pushing past police officers, hurting police officers... not all of that is violence but there’s no question that most of that is. And if you believe the ‘non-violent’ gained access peacefully I wouldn’t disagree - civil disobedience (even where trespassing occurs) isn’t violent by definition... but they are guilty by association. There WAS violence and that was unfortunate.

And I think it’s incredibly important that we acknowledge it because we’re kidding ourselves if we believe that the potential for violence from Patriots doesn’t continue to grow. In fact, as they press forward with cancel culture at every level up to the impeachment and (I believe) pending prosecution of the President and those that sit with him, the potential continues to grow with each act of division.

The reason why I feel it’s important to not deny the reality of violence and Trump supporter’s direct or indirect complicity on the 6th is because it’s leaving us unprepared for what’s to come.

More importantly - blaming this on Antifa or some a special ops raid (true or not) is akin to denial to what did happen then and what may happen in the future. Especially as the progressives and statists ramp up their use of those realities.


35 posted on 01/13/2021 9:16:50 AM PST by Frapster (Don't tread on me.)
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To: Frapster

If these people were invited into the Capitol by Capitol police, it would not have been trespassing.

The claims are that the police were “over powered” yet the videos show hundreds of police standing by idling.


48 posted on 01/13/2021 9:43:36 AM PST by MNDude
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To: Frapster

Was anybody, besides the capitol security, armed? We’re any of the protesters who entered the capitol armed? Was anybody fighting? A few broken windows and a lot of noise doesn’t sound like “insurrection” to me. It sounds like angry peasants, but congress doesn’t seem to be doing a lot of listening anymore.


55 posted on 01/13/2021 9:52:25 AM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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