Posted on 01/11/2021 10:14:04 AM PST by Borges
Went back and watched some episodes of Star Trek with Picard about a year ago. OMG. Dripping with liberalism.
One episode David Ogden Stiers (MASH’s Winchester) reaches 60 and by law must commit suicided so he wouldn’t be a burden on society!
I remember seeing Mitchell in an episode of “The Saint” with Roger Moore called “The Latin Touch”; he played a cab driver in Rome.
So Lionel had respect for Archie? Interesting. It seems to me as if Norman Lear,a true leftist in real life,did his best to portray Archie as a semi-literate knuckle dragger.
I also think that there was a time when liberals weren’t completely bats—t crazy.
No, he actually didn't. He developed the Archie character as one to be hated and reviled as a bigot. He was clueless and had no idea people would LOVE Archie and embrace his "America, Love it or Leave it" attitude.
Maude.
My mother hated Maude. Mother was a conservative Christian lady and Maude was the opposite of that.
Maude served as an example of what was (and still is) wrong with America.
You are so right!
The Maude character backfired on Lear too. Many found her preachy and insufferable (like Meathead), and liked Walter, Florida and Archie better.
(Maude refuses to get out of Archie’s chair)
Archie: Well I got the secret weapon that can lay this little lady right away. Here we go, This country was ruined by Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Cousin Maude: You’re fat.
Archie: Sticks and stones may break my bones but Franklin Delano Roosevelt...
Edith: Archie you promised never to say that name again in front of Maude
Archie: Franklin Delano Roosevelt!
Edith to Maude: He don’t mean nothing His whole family was for Roosevelt.
Archie: That was for two terms But that was it. We didn’t know the guy was going to hold on to the job like a pope!
Lear did want Archie to be somewhat relatable. Writers in TV know that “Love to Hate” characters can’t be TOO hateful. Otherwise people won’t want to spend time with them.
Archie accused FDR of giving away the store at Yalta, which he did.
Like any leftist, Lear had no original thoughts or ideas. He took Archie Bunker from Alf Garnett, a character created by BBC’s Johnny Speight.
The British show was in the credits of every single episode. But the characters were quite different. I don’t know how much of that is due to the actors.
I remember that George Jefferson character in time to become a born-again deacon in another.
Sherman Helmsley was a Gentle Giant fan, so he was cool in my book.
Probably the most different characters were Else and Edith. Else was quite sarcastic and put Alf in his place a lot.
My parents loathed maude. I’m not sure if it was her demeanor or the abortion episode or both.
I still LOL every time Rush talks about “Maude Behar”.
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