Is this him?
Posted on 01/09/2021 5:36:21 PM PST by blueplum
One more reason I don’t like the Brits.
I have paid to attend a couple of firearms training classes, including a mandated concealed carry class.
I have never, ever had an instructor say it would be appropriate to shoot an unarmed person that was standing in front of armed police - even if the person was standing on the wrong side on the door.
It is truly frightening the hoops people are jumping through to make this a “good shoot.” Some of the dumbest people commenting are Republicans.
Justice for Ashli ! .....How about Kyle?
It is not legal to kill people for trespassing......Especially if it is THEIR property.
I'll answer my own question:
Michael Sherwin, acting U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, said that his office has started a federal, excessive force investigation over the shooting and killing of former U.S. Air Force veteran Ashli Babbitt in the Capitol on Jan. 6.Sherwin confirmed the investigation with CBS News.
His civil rights section will lead the prosecution, which is being investigated by D.C. police and the FBI.
“I have never, ever had an instructor say it would be appropriate to shoot an unarmed person that was standing in front of armed police - even if the person was standing on the wrong side on the door.”
If someone is coming in through a busted out window, I’m opening fire. I have no obligation to retreat. The fact that there are police behind the person climbing through the window doesn’t take away my rights.
Some here may consider the woman a hero. ALL I’ll say is that it’s sad she lost her life but I’m not going to dwell on it.
Did not look like a Capitol Policeman shot her...guy in suite with French cuffs
Is this him?
“If someone is coming in through a busted out window, I’m opening fire.”
On public property?
I think what you probably mean is if someone was coming through a broken window into your home, and that person was not a fireman trying to put out a fire in your home, and you were not a felon yourself in possession of an illegal firearm, and you were in fear of your life . . .
But of course none of these thing apply to the killing in the Capitol that we are discussing.
not sure about that. They might be subject to recall by their state constituents - a matter now ripe for SCOTUS.
During March 2010, the NJ appellate court allowed collection of recall signatures to proceed in a suit brought by the Tea Party.
AmericanThinker commented in April 2010:
“Whether citizens of a state have the right to recall from office a sitting U.S. senator is no longer an academic question. The second-highest New Jersey appeals court has just ruled that such an effort can proceed against Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ).
Several other states have provisions in their state constitutions and laws that may also allow recall efforts. And by the common provision of initiative by the people of state laws and constitutions, similar processes could be established in other states.”
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2010/04/is_a_statebased_recall_of_a_us.html
The NJ Supremes rejected the right of citizens to recall their critters as a violation of the Constitution in Nov of 2010. But the case was never elevated above NJ.
https://www.politico.com/story/2010/11/court-kills-menendez-recall-push-045347
Federal courts have ruled against it.
What has yet to be explained is why a single mother and 14 year military veteran was shot dead by Capital Policemen while many other so-called rioters were waved into the facility by those same policement?! Why were the leading instigators not fired upon? Yes, this girl was foolish, however she was either extremely unlucky or there was no plan to shoot the leaders.
Notice how stories about the officer who died have disappeared?
Here are some questions- with cameras and surveillance all over the place where the the video of the actual assault? Where is a picture of the perp?
I know that the FBI took over the investigation, so it will be a complete incompetant screw-up from the word go, but all we’ve heard is a story, and these first reports from the scene are notoriously inaccurate. The media loves this story.
So where did it go?
“On public property?”
Many justifiable shootings take place on public property.
The use of justifiable deadly force isn’t restricted to property you own.
So sad....and, outrageous.
here’s a video that tells a story.
About 12 seconds in, you can catch a glimps of Ashli behind several men, one wrapped in a Gadsten flag. She’s clearly a female, with blond hair showing (that is she’s not disguised). Men are bashing on the door glass closest to the shooter, the panes of which are broken or shattered. One man is bashing the door exactly where Ashli would be in a few seconds. The videographer concentrates on the gun for the next 12 seconds.
Ashli again comes into view at 29 seconds. Was she hopping up like she’s going to get a better look thru the window, maybe she was going to go thru, maybe she was going to tell the shooter to holster his weapon? Cueing the tape to exactly 29 seconds, you’ll see the window is clear, she’s not “in” it, but that might be her hand reaching for the door. At 31 seconds, 2 seconds later, she’s already falling backwards, from hopping to falling backwards. Very much an up, shoot, down, fast as that.
Wow. Sad. There were 3 or 4 heavily armed guards just behind her. Threat to who?
If you're breaking into a room or a building and there is someone on the other side pointing a gun at you, then you stop what you're doing and walk away.
To assume the other person will act with restraint is to demonstrate an incredible amount of confidence in the training, the intellect, and the composure of the gun-bearer; that the person will not shoot is an assumption that nobody should ever make.
It's a common theme here in the forums that if a motorist had just listened to the commands of the police officer who stopped him, he would still be alive.
The principle applies here as well. When the guy showed up with the gun drawn, it was clear he meant business, even if he may have been dumber than a bag of hammers; everyone on the viewer's side of the doors should have stopped immediately.
The shooting in the Capitol was not justifiable by any reasonable standard.
Next you will be fantasizing that it was you that saved the nation by making the heroic shot.
I called Markwayne Mullets office and actually got a live person to talk to. It was some guy and I told him what I thought of ‘Mullets’ opinion. Nicely, of course...: )
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