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To: bagster

Re Connections with Ramseys:

With your background, watch this and see if you think this ex-policeman is telling the truth:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AwJn4nRvQAQ

I’d be interested in your take on it.


2,058 posted on 01/04/2021 12:57:29 AM PST by Melian (For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it might cost, I am willing to know the whole truth..., )
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To: Melian
I believe he is completely telling the truth. Homicide detectives are usually the best and brightest of a law enforcement agency. Excellent investigators and they must be completely believable on the witness stand. They are in that position for a reason. No kooks allowed.

I believe he received that phone call. I believe him when he talks about the 'psychic', though I don't like that he relied on her statement as if it supported his theory. I could have done without that one.

But all in all, there is no reason to believe he's not telling the truth. I'd be curious to know if the body had 'garrote' marks on the neck. Also, the tazer marks are extremely telling and supportive of his theory.

The Ghislaine Maxwell connection (photo and lawyer) fit in nicely with the world that we now know exists. The brother thing is also interesting, and fits.


2,064 posted on 01/04/2021 1:22:18 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas.")
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To: Melian
you can tell how very upset this man is about the subject matter, as any decent person would....I don't know if we can make much of the photo....it is interesting that Maxwell and John Ramsey used the same attorney at one time, meaning that perhaps they ran in the same social circles, etc....

IIRC, Lin Wood came in much later in the case when the Ramseys were fodder for the rumor mills...

I am glad I just live in an ordinary world....

2,073 posted on 01/04/2021 1:34:14 AM PST by cherry (TRUMP WON!)
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To: Melian

FWIW, much of this I knew including the call so he must have told this story before. Thats of note as this wss not something I investigated but read the old threads years ago by those that did so I must have learned from them. We knew then that she was either being rented out or broken in but didnt know by whom. There was speculation at that time about Romers real role/connection and about a attorney connection with someone (a political figure I cant name right now) and those connections led to the Clintons but Epstien wasnt on the radar at the time. At least he wasnt in relation to this.

It explains why they were still dressed, the other brothers smearage, and a couple of other things (she wasnt the only one).


2,149 posted on 01/04/2021 5:48:58 AM PST by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: Melian; gnarledmaw; bagster; cherry; generally; Cats Pajamas
John Ramsey had been CEO of Access Graphics, a subsidiary of Lockheed Martin.

One should consider the Deep State(DS)'s influence through Lockheed Martin. Think the U2 and SR-71 projects, which have long been known as CIA projects. Many people that worked on those projects were understood to work for the CIA. (Yes, I have a connection to one of those, but no classified intel came my way through it, nor have I ever been an employee of any three-lettered or related group.

Another figure that had worked with Lockheed Martin, Stephen Paddock, found himself dead and in Paradise (I said it that way just for bagster.) on October 1, 2017. There can really be zero doubt that Paddock had worked for the Agency. All the media and LE avoidance of DS-related evidence surrounding Paddock should tell anyone all they need to know concerning Paddock's background.)

John Ramsey would have been required to show his fealty to the DS through rituals with which many will not be comfortable. The crowd steeped in that (think child sexploitation, trafficking and sacrifice) are of course "sick." One aspect of it is to hold blackmail material over people.

I think someone was using JonBenét in a blackmail scheme against John and later, his wife. Neither would have wanted the blackmail material to destroy that coulple's life any further. The wife would be motivated to help coverup against such blackmail material.

Access and potential harm to JonBenét would be a severe potential threat to the Ramseys, of course.

I consider it a very strong possibility that the malefactor did not intend to kill JonBenét, as the Colorado Springs detectives' phone call initiator said, but had corporate blackmail more as a background motive.

2,567 posted on 01/04/2021 4:19:36 PM PST by rx (Truth will out!)
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