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People with coronavirus are still getting on planes. No one knows how many.
Seattle Times ^ | Dec. 28, 2020 | Hannah Sampson and Shannon McMahon

Posted on 12/28/2020 3:43:15 PM PST by Vendome

In the days after a man on their flight stopped breathing, fellow passengers wondered if he was infected with coronavirus – and whether they might be at risk. The airline said it didn’t know, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention wouldn’t say publicly.

An answer didn’t come until a local coroner released a report a week later confirming that covid-19 was a cause of the 69-year-old man’s death on Dec. 14, along with acute respiratory failure. By Wednesday, three different passengers said they still hadn’t gotten official word from any public health authorities.

“I figured somehow they would get in touch with everybody, send out probably a mass email – at least to everybody who booked the flight – and say, ‘If you were on this flight, you should go get tested,'” said Robert Reeves, 53, who was a few feet away from the man as medical workers performed CPR in the aisle for roughly 45 minutes

Some airports and airlines have been requiring preflight temperature checks or offering preflight testing as they try to adapt to the new public health landscape. Testing offered by airlines is generally meant to help passengers meet entry requirements at their destinations or avoid quarantine when they arrive.

Neither temperature checks nor testing, of course, is perfect. Travelers could be asymptomatic or too recently infected to run a temperature. And someone could be infected but still test negative.

“Individuals can be pre-symptomatic or entirely asymptomatic,” he said. “In both cases those individuals are still infectious, and the symptom screening tools are completely ineffective.”

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To: Skywise

Asymptomatic people are not usually contagious for viruses, in my limited experience, but true for bacterial pathogens. However, PRE-symptomatic people may be contagious for viruses prior to their knowing they are sick.

I would love for another scientist or medical doctor to let me know that I am wrong in this regard, so that I can move on from my limited knowledge in what I recall from my prior micro studies.


41 posted on 12/28/2020 6:42:15 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: Vendome

“We call all be typhoid Mary “

Hyperbole much?


42 posted on 12/28/2020 6:48:42 PM PST by MayflowerMadam ("Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free" Galatians 5:1)
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To: steve86

Toothpaste?


43 posted on 12/28/2020 6:50:50 PM PST by MayflowerMadam ("Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free" Galatians 5:1)
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To: hsmomx3

“I think the test kits are rigged.”

They’re rigged in that there’s probably no chemical or agent even existing there. It’s more theater.


44 posted on 12/28/2020 6:53:44 PM PST by MayflowerMadam ("Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free" Galatians 5:1)
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To: Skywise

I have seasonal allergies as well, but besides an occasional sore throat, which is later in the game for me, my first symptom is itchiness inside my ears and nose and sinuses. I try to pay attention to the minor differences before the nasal drainage develops into a sore throat. Itchy in my ears, nose and sinuses usually mean allergy to me. If those aren’t there when I get a sore throat, then I usually change over to the idea that my nasal congestion could be the beginning of a cold.


45 posted on 12/28/2020 6:58:06 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: psjones

I call those individuals PRE- symptomatic, not asymptomatic, and yes, I know of several people personally who this held true for.

One young lady I know was exposed at her job. Someone tested positive so they all got tested. Her first test was negative. A day or two later, she began her earliest symptoms. She felt like she was getting a head cold, and then had no taste or smell a day later.

When her fiancé started with a headache, she was retested and this time was positive. Two days later he tested positive also.

Both are over it now, and got to spend a late Christmas with their families.

In my mind, this is pre-symptomatic not asymptomatic spread. I would love to know if I am wrong in this assessment.


46 posted on 12/28/2020 7:06:14 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: MayflowerMadam

Agreed.

I guess there is no flu this year or the common cold.


47 posted on 12/28/2020 7:13:58 PM PST by hsmomx3
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To: Vendome

T post


48 posted on 12/28/2020 7:30:34 PM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Vendome
Neither temperature checks nor testing, of course, is perfect. Travelers could be asymptomatic or too recently infected to run a temperature. And someone could be infected but still test negative.

And a crapton of positive tests are false positives, so a bunch of people are missing their flights due to stupid policies...
49 posted on 12/28/2020 9:04:34 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: FamiliarFace

I have a relative who got covid at work..The night before he
came down with symptoms, he had people over at his house..Four people who were at his house the night beforedid not get sick,


50 posted on 12/28/2020 9:45:54 PM PST by psjones (u)
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To: Vendome

So, a guy is so sick that he dies of “acute respiratory failure’ after getting on a plane and nobody had questions during the boarding process and it’s gasp, Covid! Suuuure.
And they push the pretty much debunked meme that asymptomatic spread is a serious issue.


51 posted on 12/29/2020 5:18:06 AM PST by trebb (Fight like your life and future depends on it - because they do.)
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To: Vendome

“I hate being on a plane when they do that...

That’s why I’m working on private jet money...”

Have your banker contact my Nigeran uncle to trade info with and you’ll have that private jet forthwith..


52 posted on 12/29/2020 5:19:47 AM PST by trebb (Fight like your life and future depends on it - because they do.)
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To: trebb

funnecessary

I flew private as part of my job for years and want the lifestyle back..


53 posted on 12/29/2020 8:24:23 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Vendome

I want you to have your lifestyle back too - it will mean many more are getting their lives back.
A friend whose wife recently passed is ready to resume his flying lessons.


54 posted on 12/29/2020 10:11:41 AM PST by trebb (Fight like your life and future depends on it - because they do.)
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