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Wayne Allyn Root: "Flu now wrapped into COVID"
Twitter ^ | Dec 20 | Wayne Allyn Root

Posted on 12/21/2020 1:00:29 AM PST by RandFan

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To: Mom MD

“use all kinds of therapies even including some you mentioned. However your nasty tone and know it all attitude “

325,000 dead and counting, according to Kozak. If patients on your watch are dying, it is needless.

The arrogant attitude comes from the conventional medical community, who demand “credentials” in order to simply present what is in thousands of research papers over decades, and yet still ignored. Moreover, you claim to use some of these things on one hand while announcing that you only use “proven therapies” on the other. Which is it? NIH says only to use Remdesivir for cv19.

Dr Thomas Levy MD did a long presentation on the clinical trials of Dr Fred Klenner MD, who pioneered vitamin C treatment as a strong antiviral therapy even for Polio. And he described the resistance of conventional medicine to continue IV-C therapy (which had been demanded by family of a dying patient) despite the fact that the IVC therapy had reversed the medical condition.

My own MD has talked at length about nutritional approaches used successfully in his practice, which most MDs refuse to consider.

325,000 dead and counting. That butcher’s bill belongs to USG, Pharma and conventional medicine.


101 posted on 12/21/2020 2:49:31 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: Mom MD

Those were the recommendations by my eye doctor in lieu of fish pills which made me violently ill.


102 posted on 12/21/2020 3:09:18 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

How high are you able to raise your blood levels of vitD using diet and a bit of sun?

Sunshine is the best way, by my reading, but then we have MDs telling us how dangerous the sun’s rays are.


103 posted on 12/21/2020 4:32:05 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: SecAmndmt

Very important to be outdoors in winter, even at the cost of cold weather discomfort.


104 posted on 12/21/2020 4:34:34 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: SecAmndmt; Mom MD

You have now had three MDs tell you to go f*ck yourself in nice words. Perhaps you should throw in the towel as you look like a complete douche.


105 posted on 12/21/2020 8:33:01 PM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

“You have now had three MDs tell you to go f*ck yourself in nice words. Perhaps you should throw in the towel as you look like a complete douche.”

Seems to me there are a quite a few of us here who think that the plandemic could be easily resolved with appropriate nutritional intervention. But that’s OK...you can continue in your quite wonderful beside manner, and owning your very own share of the 325,000 body count.

BTW about 5 years ago, my aunt died of a coronavirus heqd cold which progressed into pneumonia. No one tested her vitamin D levels, and no one offered her D3, C, A or Bcomplex or zinc or quercetin. It turns out she was a victim of medical malpractice?


106 posted on 12/21/2020 10:16:48 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: SecAmndmt

I don’t think you know what medical malpractice means and I don’t think you understand how vitamin work. And when push comes to shove we use real medications not over the counter stuff

It seems if someone died due to vitamin deficiency that would be on them. But isomer seriously think it is the cause. If it were we would be curing with vitamins.

And before you haul off and say much else you are practicing medicine without a license. At least tell those you are advising you have no training and no license to practice.

I note you never answered mom MD question about IV fluid , oxygen delivery modes, anticoagulation and numerous other therapies. Seems to me she is meeting the standard of care. You don’t even know what the standard of care is.

Carry on. Just made inform people you have no training no license and only an opinion.

Pleasant evening to you good doctor.


107 posted on 12/21/2020 10:29:32 PM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
People aren’t going out near as much do the flu isn’t spreading .

So the flu is not spreading but Covid is? How does that work?

108 posted on 12/21/2020 10:36:26 PM PST by Shethink13
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To: gas_dr

“And before you haul off and say much else you are practicing medicine without a license. At least tell those you are advising you have no training and no license to practice.”

This final statement really summarizes the buffoonery of our FR Cv19 MD contingent.

Advocating in general in favor of supplements and nutrition is not medical practice. It is not even diatetics. Supplements are regulated as food, and are the free choice of the individual (see DSHEA law of 1994?).

Show me where I have prescribed anything to anyone. I haven’t. I have simply shared basic and general public space information on boosting of immunity, and questioned why it is that a lay person like myself should be the one to encourage others to take control of their own health. People who have an interest can and should look it up for themselves.

Funny that wellness professionals encourage others to do exactly what I advocate: for everyone to take responsibility for their own health.

There is an element of threat to your post as well, suggesting that those of us who speak out are breaking the law. That too is perfectly in keeping with a profession which is protective of its power of life and death over others. You’d prefer a patient died, rather than the patient taking simple steps to help his or herself.

We do not live in a technocracy. Perhaps some will find out hard, that that is not about to change.

The bad medical advice of conventional MDs is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands every year even without cv19.


109 posted on 12/21/2020 11:51:03 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: gas_dr

“I note you never answered mom MD question about IV fluid , oxygen delivery modes, anticoagulation and numerous other therapies. Seems to me she is meeting the standard of care. You don’t even know what the standard of care is.”

325,000 dead and counting. Thank God the standard of care was met! At least the health insurance of the deceased will pay, huh?

Proverbs 26:11


110 posted on 12/21/2020 11:56:05 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: gas_dr

Anyone reading can note that in the story below: on Day 7, it was the family that insisted on IV-C for treatment of infection. Presumably, none of the family members was a licensed MD. Without the intervention of these lay people, the patient was looking at a more negative outcome, or even death.

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https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/08/28/iv-vitamin-c-coronavirus.aspx

STORY AT-A-GLANCE-
Vitamin C is an essential component of immune cell function, it has potent anti-inflammatory effects and at high doses even works as an antiviral
Vitamin C is a foundational component of two distinct and highly effective treatment protocols developed by Dr. Paul Marik — one for sepsis and another, called MATH+, specifically for COVID-19
According to a recent case history, high-dose IV vitamin C was successfully used to save the life of an elderly patient with critical COVID-19 infection, sepsis and acute respiratory distress syndrome
According to the doctors who reported the case, she was the first patient to successfully discontinue mechanical ventilation early at that hospital. The median duration of mechanical ventilation for COVID-19 patients is 10 days, whereas this patient was able to get off it in five
Previous research found IV vitamin C at a dose of 50 mg per kilo every six hours for 96 hours significantly reduced mortality and shortened ICU stays among patients with sepsis and ARDS
While U.S. media and self-appointed “fact checkers” claim the use of vitamin C against COVID-19 is nothing but fake news and dangerous nonsense, the Chinese have been hard at work looking at vitamin C against this pandemic illness.

One source where you can find pertinent research material is the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service website,1 which has published more than a dozen reports on this topic.

Earlier this year I interviewed Dr. Andrew Saul, editor-in-chief of the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, about vitamin C against viral illnesses such as COVID-19, in which he reviewed some of its established benefits. Importantly, vitamin C is an essential component of immune cell function, it has potent anti-inflammatory effects and at high doses even works as an antiviral.

Vitamin C is a foundational component of two distinct and highly effective treatment protocols developed by Dr. Paul Marik — one for sepsis and another, called MATH+, specifically for COVID-19. I’ve reviewed both protocols in previous articles.

COVID-19 Patient Brought From Brink of Death by Vitamin C
An August 10, 2020, MedPage Today article2 highlights a recent case3 history in which high-dose IV vitamin C was successfully used to save the life of an elderly patient.

A 74-year-old woman was admitted to a Flint, Michigan, hospital after suffering with low-grade fever, dry cough and shortness of breath for two days. She’d recently undergone a knee replacement procedure, and her knee is now red, swollen and painful, suggesting infection has set in.

Over the next 24 hours, her condition continued to worsen, despite treatment with oxygen, antibiotics and other drugs. Her RT-PCR test also came back positive for SARS-CoV-2 infection. As reported by MedPage Today:4

“Clinicians start treatment with oral hydroxychloroquine 400 mg once and then 200 mg twice a day, along with intravenous azithromycin 500 mg once a day, zinc sulfate 220 mg three times a day, and oral vitamin C 1 g twice a day.

When blood and sputum cultures are negative for any organisms, broad-spectrum antibiotics are discontinued. The patient’s dyspnea rapidly worsens, and oxygen requirements increase to 15 liters. She is drowsy, in moderate distress, and her airways remain unprotected …

By day 6 … Bilateral alveolar infiltrates are evident on chest x-ray, due to pneumonia and interstitial edema, consistent with acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS). Given her rapid deterioration, the patient is intubated on an emergent basis and started on pressure-regulated volume-controlled mechanical ventilation.”

By day 7, the woman’s family requested she be placed on high-dose IV vitamin C, and over the next 24 hours, she received 11 grams total. Two days later, her condition began to gradually improve, and on day 10, a second chest x-ray revealed considerable improvement of both the pneumonia and interstitial edema, at which point she was extubated. The patient’s breathing continued improving over the following five days.

“On day 16, she shows significant recovery, with oxygen saturation of 92% while breathing ambient air, and chest radiography reveals almost complete resolution of the infiltrates,” MedPage Today reports.5

“During her hospitalization, the patient received a total of 5 days of treatment with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin along with 4 days of colchicine. Treatment with high-dose vitamin C infusion and oral zinc sulfate were continued for a total of 10 days.”

Take-Home Message: Fight for the Treatment You Want
Remarkably, while suffering from severe COVID-19 infection, septic shock and ARDS — and being on mechanical ventilation — this elderly woman made a full recovery.

According to the doctors who reported the case, she was the first patient to successfully discontinue mechanical ventilation early at that hospital. The median duration of mechanical ventilation for COVID-19 patients is 10 days, whereas this patient was able to get off it in five.

Vitamin C has been recognized as an essential component of immune cell function with a critical role in numerous immune system mechanisms. Severe vitamin C deficiency is also known to increase the risk for … pneumonia and other infections.
A key take-home message from this story is that the IV infusion of vitamin C was done at the insistence of her family. It’s an excellent example demonstrating that when things are going sideways, you need to step in and push for the care you want. You have that right.

It’s also an example of why it’s so important to have an advocate to speak up for you when you’re admitted to the hospital. This woman was placed on mechanical ventilation, which means she was sedated and was in no position to make any of her own decisions. Fortunately, her family knew about the potential benefits of vitamin C and insisted it be tried. In doing so, they saved her life. As noted by MedPage Today:6

“Vitamin C in­fusion is not approved as a standard treatment for SARS-CoV-2 and thus was not part of the hospital’s COVID-19 treatment regimen.

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111 posted on 12/22/2020 12:39:34 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: Mom MD

While I suspect valid COVID-19 cases do exist, there is more evidence of the entire affair being a fraud to destroy America from within, culturally and economically.

I have no doubt the masking and social distancing policies cause far more harm and economic waste than prevention of COVID cases.

I have no doubt the statistics provided are grossly skewed by over an order of magnitude throughout the healthcare industry claiming far more COVID cases than are justifiable.

I’ve seen too many well qualified medical doctors censored to believe the healthcare industry has any intention of actually providing healthcare and professional service.

Re: comments on disincentives to be labeled fraudulent for any medical professional who signs off on COVID caused illness or death,... I place that in the same category as election vote counters not being fraudulent, because they are too honorable to risk being found out to be frauds. In both situations, I believe there is massive fraud, and for multiple reasons.

In a nutshell, we tend to place too much faith in public news reporting, when it becomes our only grasp of the world around us.

The worldly system has placed too many incompetent people in positions of worldly authority, undermining the professions, and promoting anything anti-Christian, in order to remain stable or retain public trust.


112 posted on 12/22/2020 12:40:32 AM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Shethink13

So the flu is not spreading but Covid is? How does that work? “

You might want to research the ability of this virus to spread very easy.


113 posted on 12/22/2020 5:18:43 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Leave me alone, I have no incriminating evidence on the Clintons)
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To: SecAmndmt

there is no evidence the vitamin c turned the corner for the patient. You are describing a rather typical course for a very ill covid patient doctor.


114 posted on 12/22/2020 5:58:38 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: Cvengr

You. any distrust whatever you like. Everyone here seems to be an expert. I hope you to not find out the truth the hard way. I have patients with your imaginary made up illness to go care for. A lot of them


115 posted on 12/22/2020 6:00:16 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

“There is no evidence the vitamin c turned the corner for the patient. You are describing a rather typical course for a very ill covid patient doctor”

Your comment illustrates EXACTLY why people should be holding the conventional medical establishment to account for cv19 deaths. The are decades of research on vitamin C as an anti-viral. You simply do not want to know.

https://www.click2houston.com/health/2020/04/17/local-hospital-using-experimental-drug-treatment-in-hopes-of-saving-lives-of-covid-19-patients/

https://ccforum.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13054-020-03249-y

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7318306/

https://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinical_guide_1988.htm


116 posted on 12/22/2020 6:26:34 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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