[norwaypinesavage]

Let's pose a hypothetical: You're caught red handed robbing a bank. The die packet explodes in the car while you're driving awayand you crash. You're immediately caught, you're covered with the red die, the recorded serial numbers match, and there are witnesses in the bank. It's a cut and dried case....except, you're treated roughly by the police, you claim they are racist, and a sympathetic jury lets you off the hook.

Do you get to keep the money?

Of course not! It belongs to the bank. The same should be true of elections. Just because some sympathetic 'jury' counts the votes, the illegal ones should be thrown out. If they can't be separated from the real ones, all of them should be thrown out, as long as it can be shown that there are enough of them to change the results.

[Svartalfiar]

Let's pose a hypothetical: You're caught red handed robbing a bank. The die packet explodes in the car while you're driving awayand you crash. You're immediately caught, you're covered with the red die, the recorded serial numbers match, and there are witnesses in the bank. It's a cut and dried case....except, you're treated roughly by the police, you claim they are racist, and a sympathetic jury lets you off the hook.

Do you get to keep the money?

Of course not! It belongs to the bank. The same should be true of elections. Just because some sympathetic 'jury' counts the votes, the illegal ones should be thrown out. If they can't be separated from the real ones, all of them should be thrown out, as long as it can be shown that there are enough of them to change the results.

You're missing some details here.
- Your deposit bank knows you stole the money, but they don't, care, the deposit means they can use it as normal.
- The shops next to the bank don't care when you spend the stolen $$, they like getting the $$ spent with them.
- The cops don;t care, they arrested you and everything else was up to the courts.
- Your lawyer doesn't care, he did his job and got you off the hook.
- The bank depositors don;t care, they aren't out any $$, and the bank likely has it covered by FDIC or something.
The only people that care are the bank tellers and managers emotionally scarred by the theft, but what can they do?

If no one fixes it, what do you do? CA courts are useless, SCOTUS ignores it, other States can't do anything, CA residents support it, and ....?