Posted on 12/17/2020 2:31:22 PM PST by gas_dr
Worthwhile vanity!
Some disappointing, but not unexpected insight...
“There is intense interest in antibody immunity to coronaviruses. However, it is unknown if coronaviruses evolve to escape such immunity, and if so, how rapidly. Here we address this question by characterizing the historical evolution of human coronavirus 229E. We identify human sera from the 1980s and 1990s that have neutralizing titers against contemporaneous 229E that are comparable to the anti-SARS-CoV-2 titers induced by SARS-CoV-2 infection or vaccination. We test these sera against 229E strains isolated after sera collection, and find that neutralizing titers are lower against these “future” viruses. In some cases, sera that neutralize contemporaneous 229E viral strains with titers >1:100 do not detectably neutralize strains isolated 8-17 years later. The decreased neutralization of “future” viruses is due to antigenic evolution of the viral spike, especially in the receptor-binding domain. If these results extrapolate to other coronaviruses, then it may be advisable to periodically update SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.”
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.17.423313v1
Source please.
Second request.
You haven’t been able to source or back-up any of your B.S.
“You haven’t been able to source or back-up any of your B.S.”
I gave you a source. Watch Lou Dobbs Tonight! On youtube
It has been asserted that all three of the currently available vaccines for the coronavirus used cells from aborted babies in some part of the process. Can you affirm or deny this assertion and provide adequate documentaion to support your answer?
It’s extensively posted. There is a renal cel line from an aborted child in 1972. The reason for the abortion was not listed and it was in France.
This cell lines was used indirectly in the testing of the vaccine but no aborted cell lines were used in the development or the creation of Pfizer or moderna
So a cultured cell line thousands of generations removed from the original cells in 1972 were used
These are the facts. The judgments surrounding these facts are up to the individual.
This cell line was used indirectly in the testing of the vaccine but no aborted cell lines were used in the development or the creation of Pfizer or moderna
The development creates the vaccine. The testing must occur on cells in culture before human trials can commence. There is a vast difference.
Again I am not one to argue the judgments. I hs e presented the facts as I understand them.
If the testing on cells from culture was performed on cells derived from an aborted individual, and then that testing was used for development using cells disparate or separate, then the extended result is not one of physical participation in innocent bloodshed, but a participation in principle nonetheless. Does that make sense? I’m not into making unjust accusations, but am obligated to make ethical considerations.
While I have my own opinion, I respect the opinions and individual judgments each person is entitled to make.
Is there a way to test for T cell immunity to Covid-19?
My Son and I just took the first Moderna shots this morning. Didn’t feel a thing.
However, I’ve been cheesing off the lib commies by calling it the, “Trump Shot.”
Our arms started hurting ten hours after the shot. Mine still aches this morning. Nothing so bad that it’s disabling, though. Feels like someone punched my arm.
Not nearly as painful as when my shipmates, “Tacked,” the crow on my arm when I made 3rd class Boatswain’s Mate.
I miss those guys.
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