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To: Defiant
All efforts should be made to do it through the courts and Congress, and Congress’ vote that is the final say under the Constitution is January 6. The Supreme Court is not likely to overturn that vote. The person who receives a majority in that vote is the President-elect.

So there is no way to "legally" say FU to a vote fraud coup if enough bad actors in high places say it's okay? If that is the case, the law is worthless, and it all needs to burn down to the ground.

And yes, I realize what that implies, but they were going to take it anyway.

1,118 posted on 12/16/2020 12:15:27 PM PST by niteowl77
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To: niteowl77
So there is no way to "legally" say FU to a vote fraud coup if enough bad actors in high places say it's okay? If that is the case, the law is worthless, and it all needs to burn down to the ground.

Been saying this for a while now. If there is no law for them, there is no law for us. I am not talking about violence, though I won't shy away from it it it comes. But I will ignore licensing and permit requirements hereon, start using barter and making under the table deals with willing employees, contractors and vendors...

Basically, anything I can get away with and to hell with the law. If I do get into a jam, I'll bribe my way out of it.

I am not joking.

1,141 posted on 12/16/2020 12:53:22 PM PST by Chuckster (Friends don't let friends eat farmed fish)
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To: niteowl77
So there is no way to "legally" say FU to a vote fraud coup if enough bad actors in high places say it's okay?

If state authorities sanction fraud, and federal courts choose not to do anything about it, and Congress allows the fraudulent electors to be treated as those sent by the voters of the state, then there is no further recourse under the law. That conduct, however, breaks the compact we have with the United States, and invites us to take other actions to preserve our rights and freedom. For a frame of reference, this kind of situation of fraud electing a President is not entirely new. In the south after the Civil War, administrators and the Union Army would not allow even those legally allowed to vote to elect Democrats to governorships, Congress and the Presidency. The 1876 battle was because although the Democrat had won, Republicans weren't willing to give up the Presidency to a Democrat after just defeating them in the Civil War. A compromise was reached where the Democrats agreed to accept a Republican Presidency, and Republicans agreed to restore home rule to the South. Soon after, Southerners had reinstated laws that prevented blacks from voting, and the Democrats had control of the South once again. For the next 80 years, Democrats controlled government in the south, and forcibly prevented blacks from voting or having other civil rights. All those Southern Democrats that were elected for 40 or 50 years and developed all that seniority were able to win because there were no blacks voting in their states. Even though blacks were a minority in most of the south, they could have had representatives in the House and maybe joined with Republicans to win Senate seats and even give their states to a Republican Presidential candidate. Instead, they were the solid south for 80 years. And no one ever brought it up in court or when electors were approved in Congress. That fraud probably gave us President Wilson, President Roosevelt, Truman and Kennedy. In Kennedy's case, Chicago was needed to put him over the top. We have lived a lie before is what I am saying. But this time, it is a lie that gives China and a global cabal control of the Presidency, instead of letting white dixiecrats have outsized power. It is a lie that we will not be able to overcome next time. It is a lie that will be made permanent, as it was in Venezuela. We should refuse to accept it this time.

1,372 posted on 12/16/2020 5:20:46 PM PST by Defiant (If the Media and Social Media are going to run things, when do we get to vote for them?)
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To: niteowl77
So there is no way to "legally" say FU to a vote fraud coup if enough bad actors in high places say it's okay?

If state authorities sanction fraud, and federal courts choose not to do anything about it, and Congress allows the fraudulent electors to be treated as those sent by the voters of the state, then there is no further recourse under the law. That conduct, however, breaks the compact we have with the United States, and invites us to take other actions to preserve our rights and freedom.

For a frame of reference, this kind of situation of fraud electing a President is not entirely new. In the south after the Civil War, administrators and the Union Army would not allow even those legally allowed to vote to elect Democrats to governorships, Congress and the Presidency. The 1876 battle was because although the Democrat had won, Republicans weren't willing to give up the Presidency to a Democrat after just defeating them in the Civil War. A compromise was reached where the Democrats agreed to accept a Republican Presidency, and Republicans agreed to restore home rule to the South.

Soon after, Southerners had reinstated laws that prevented blacks from voting, and the Democrats had control of the South once again. For the next 80 years, Democrats controlled government in the south, and forcibly prevented blacks from voting or having other civil rights. All those Southern Democrats that were elected for 40 or 50 years and developed all that seniority were able to win because there were no blacks voting in their states. Even though blacks were a minority in most of the south, they could have had representatives in the House and maybe joined with Republicans to win Senate seats and even give their states to a Republican Presidential candidate. Instead, they were the solid south for 80 years. And no one ever brought it up in court or when electors were approved in Congress. That fraud probably gave us President Wilson, President Roosevelt, Truman and Kennedy. In Kennedy's case, Chicago was needed to put him over the top.

We have lived a lie before is what I am saying. But this time, it is a lie that gives China and a global cabal control of the Presidency, instead of letting white dixiecrats have outsized power. It is a lie that we will not be able to overcome next time. It is a lie that will be made permanent, as it was in Venezuela. We should refuse to accept it this time.

1,378 posted on 12/16/2020 5:25:33 PM PST by Defiant (If the Media and Social Media are going to run things, when do we get to vote for them?)
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