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Agency votes today on 80 mph speed limit for portions of some toll roads across Oklahoma
Tulsa World ^ | July 28, 2020 | Barbara Hoberock

Posted on 12/14/2020 6:56:54 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: TexasGator

“It’s called defensive driving.”

You are not driving defensively at 100 MPH on a public roadway unless you are the only person on it for miles in any direction and it has just been resurfaced and leveled out with no bump, holes, or access to pedestrians or animals and your equipment has been put 100%.

I read an article by Eddie Wren. He was a 14 year British Police office serving in traffic and trained as a police ‘advanced driver’ and ‘advanced motorcyclist,’ scoring the second highest test marks in the history of the force concerned. And after leaving the police force, appointed as the only north of England driver for a branch of the U.K. ‘National Health Service’ that organizes the delivery of donor organs. This necessitated driving at extreme speeds for long distances on public roads, but always with police clearance. In December 1999, he was featured in the UK ‘Volvo Magazine’ regarding his position in charge of training for the team of donor organ transportation drivers in Scotland. He has been driving this service in the US for the past 4 years. From the article:

Speed

Thinking
Distance 2

Braking
Distance

Overall
Stopping Distance

Comparisons

20 mph 20 feet 20 feet 40 feet
30 mph 30 feet 45 feet 75 feet
40 mph 40 feet 80 feet 120 feet
50 mph 50 feet 125 feet 175 feet
60 mph 60 feet 180 feet 240 feet
70 mph 70 feet 245 feet 315 feet
80 mph 80 feet 320 feet 400 feet

You’ll notice at 80 MPH, the average driver under normal reaction times, with no freeze up or panic, takes longer than a one and a third football fields to get the average vehicle stopped. And no amount of street legal vehicle can change physics. You can be as defensive as you think you are, but driving faster than everyone around you is capable of, is not defensive. It’s an open invitation for someone to make an error and kill all of you because they aren’t capable. And most aren’t. And most over rate their capacity.

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81 posted on 12/15/2020 12:47:39 PM PST by whitney69
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To: whitney69

“60 mph 60 feet 180 feet 240 feet”

Statistics are for riders, not drivers!

Braking 180’. Most modern cars are well under that! My car is under 100’.


82 posted on 12/15/2020 1:00:13 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: whitney69

“You are not driving defensively at 100 MPH on a public roadway unless you are the only person on it for miles in any direction and it has just been resurfaced and leveled out with no bump, holes, or access to pedestrians or animals and your equipment has been put 100%.”

ROTFLMAO! My car at 50% is safe at 100.

A car 500 feet away is not a hazard. To be watched defensively, yes. Any animals could be seen approaching or on the roadway.

One size does not fit all. Take your fake data, stuff it in your trunk and stay under 55.


83 posted on 12/15/2020 1:06:18 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: whitney69

“You’ll notice at 80 MPH, the average driver under normal reaction times, with no freeze up or panic, takes longer than a one and a third football fields to get the average vehicle stopped. “

If one is practicing defensive driving he will be attuned to hazards and react more quickly.

Your numbers are not valid for modern cars driven by good drivers.


84 posted on 12/15/2020 1:25:20 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: whitney69

“You can be as defensive as you think you are, but driving faster than everyone around you is capable of, is not defensive.”

Driving defensively means traveling with the flow. Slower cars were around 85, faster ones were 100+. Cruising at 100 put me in the flow thus passing cars and being passed were minimized reducing time of being near other cars.


85 posted on 12/15/2020 1:29:02 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: kjam22

Lots of things have changed since I ordered it fifteen Months ago.

It was long before Covid hit and now with the impending Joementia / Hoementia Regime being a distinct possibility I find myself not that excited about owning the Car.

I know it sounds crazy, but I find it hard to find enjoyment in things I normally would knowing full well what lies ahead for our Country.

I am actually more depressed than I was when I was diagnosed with Leukemia fifteen years ago. Completely nonsensical, but here I am. The concept that Evil wins is unacceptable to me.

I understand more than ever the meaning of the old saying “Ignorance is bliss”. We are surrounded by ignorance which gives Evil all the room it needs to thrive.

Once I get the Corvette Title in hand I am thinking about Advertising it for Sale if they are still going for a Premium. If I sell it I will likely buy myself a less expensive 4x4 Pickup that will be much more useful.

Sorry for the rant. I guess I can blame the Winter doom and gloom Weather.


86 posted on 12/15/2020 1:36:37 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: whitney69

Accident fallacy

An accident fallacy is an error in reasoning caused by sweeping generalizations. It occurs when you assume that a rule-of-thumb applies to everyone or every situation, including obvious exceptions. While generalizing helps make the world easier to understand, often generalizations do not apply to every situation. An accident fallacy is using such a generalization to draw an incorrect conclusion about an obvious exception.


87 posted on 12/15/2020 4:24:32 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: GaryCrow

Not sure what you are referencing deaths were steadily declining from 88-92 and then they started to rise again.

https://www.iihs.org/topics/fatality-statistics/detail/yearly-snapshot


88 posted on 12/15/2020 5:03:37 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

“Not sure what you are referencing deaths were steadily declining from 88-92 and then they started to rise again.”

ROTFLMAO!

The 55 was lifted in 88 and the deaths in those years was less than during 75-88 when 55 was the law of the land!


89 posted on 12/16/2020 8:51:50 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

The original post claimed it passed in 95


90 posted on 12/16/2020 12:04:22 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

“The original post claimed it passed in 95”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Maximum_Speed_Law

Traffic deaths increased in Wyoming when 55 was enacted.


91 posted on 12/16/2020 12:19:02 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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