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To: zaxtres

Actually, you said *exactly* that. You said, and I quote, “By leveraging this property of nature, we truly can go faster than light.”

You posted those words, right?


80 posted on 12/10/2020 8:20:18 AM PST by dinodino ( )
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To: dinodino

Actually, you said *exactly* that. You said, and I quote, “By leveraging this property of nature, we truly can go faster than light.”

You posted those words, right?


Copy and paste and give post number.


82 posted on 12/10/2020 8:24:48 AM PST by zaxtres (`)
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To: dinodino

Hey dododo brain... I am posting a complete listing of what I said and what you said. Get it out of your cotton picking mind I ever said anything that you think I said. Because I have never said anything about humans travelling faster than light. So the appropriate response is what the hell are you smoking????? Highlight, if your small limited mind can do so, where I said By leveraging this property of nature, we truly can go faster than light.”

To: allendale
Either you accept Einstein’s theories of relativity or you beleive UFOs are visiting earth. You cannot beleive both.

I before E except after C!
I choose to believe both but with the caveat mentioned in the below article.

Nothing can move faster than the speed of light. When Einstein set forth his theory of relativity, this was his inviolable postulate: that there was an ultimate cosmic speed limit, and that only massless particles could ever attain it. All massive particles could only approach it, but would never reach it. The speed of light, according to Einstein, was the same for all observers in all reference frames, and no form of matter could ever attain it.

But this interpretation of Einstein omits an important caveat: all of this is only true in the vacuum of purely, perfectly empty space. Through a medium of any type — whether that’s air, water, glass, acrylic, or any gas, liquid, or solid — light travels at a measurably slower speed. Energetic particles, on the other hand, are only bound to travel slower than light in a vacuum, not light in a medium. By leveraging this property of nature, we truly can go faster than light.

Light emitted by the Sun travels through the vacuum of space at exactly 299,792,458 m/s: the... [+] ultimate cosmic speed limit. As soon as that light strikes a medium, however, including something like Earth’s atmosphere, those photons will drop in speed as they move only at the speed of light through that medium. While no massive particle can ever attain the speed of light in a vacuum, it can easily attain or even exceed the speed of light in a medium.
Light emitted by the Sun travels through the vacuum of space at exactly 299,792,458 m/s: the... [+] FYODOR YURCHIKHIN / RUSSIAN SPACE AGENCY
Imagine a ray of light that travels directly away from the Sun. In the vacuum of space, if no particles or matter are present, it will indeed travel at the ultimate cosmic speed limit, c: 299,792,458 m/s, the speed of light in a vacuum. Although humanity has produced extremely energetic particles in colliders and accelerators — and detected even more energetic particles coming from extragalactic sources — we know we cannot break this limit.

At the LHC, the accelerated protons can reach speeds up to 299,792,455 m/s, just 3 m/s below the speed of light. At LEP, which accelerated electrons and positrons instead of protons in the same CERN tunnel that the LHC now occupies, the top particle speed was 299,792,457.9964 m/s, which is the fastest accelerated particle ever created. And the highest-energy cosmic ray clocks in with an extraordinary speed of 299,792,457.999999999999918 m/s, which would lose a race with a photon to Andromeda and back by only six seconds.

30 posted on 12/10/2020, 10:05:54 AM by zaxtres (`)
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To: zaxtres
What are you smoking? What you just said is incorrect.

34 posted on 12/10/2020, 10:07:35 AM by dinodino ( )
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To: dinodino
Explain to everyone what I said is incorrect. It is not enough to say it is incorrect without explanation because it makes you look like you have no idea what you are talking about.

38 posted on 12/10/2020, 10:16:23 AM by zaxtres (`)
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To: zaxtres
Please cite your source for the following assertion: “Energetic particles, on the other hand, are only bound to travel slower than light in a vacuum, not light in a medium. By leveraging this property of nature, we truly can go faster than light.”

41 posted on 12/10/2020, 10:17:24 AM by dinodino ( )
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To: dinodino
Explain to everyone what I said is incorrect. It is not enough to say it is incorrect without explanation because it makes you look like you have no idea what you are talking about.

You also need to reread the post. I said “the article” which means I did not say it. Your reading comprehension is incorrect.

43 posted on 12/10/2020, 10:17:36 AM by zaxtres (`)
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To: zaxtres
In particular, please explain how “we” can travel faster than light. I know about Cerenkov radiation, etc., but how do you assert that humans can travel faster than light speed, whether in a vacuum or medium?

47 posted on 12/10/2020, 10:19:55 AM by dinodino ( )
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To: zaxtres
See my post #47. You said that human can travel faster than light in a medium. That’s complete horseshit, unless you know something I don’t.

56 posted on 12/10/2020, 10:24:36 AM by dinodino ( )
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To: dinodino
You said that human can travel faster than light in a medium. That’s complete horseshit, unless you know something I don’t.

I said no such thing. That claim is complete horseshit. You need to reread what I posted. Nowhere does it claim or make mention of humans travelling at any rate of speed. So I call bullcrap on your horseshit. Reading Comprehension ever heard of it? Try using it.

69 posted on 12/10/2020, 10:54:57 AM by zaxtres (`)
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To: zaxtres
“By leveraging this property of nature, we truly can go faster than light.”

Did you post the above?

71 posted on 12/10/2020, 10:57:05 AM by dinodino ( )
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To: dinodino
How idiotic are you to not read a post that says nothing about humans and then attribute it to what someone said. Man your spin makes even you dizzy.

Besides get with the thread. The thread is about aliens and UFOs. Unless you know something we don’t....

You need to change your name from dinodino to dododo because yeah just that.

73 posted on 12/10/2020, 11:02:56 AM by zaxtres (`)
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To: zaxtres
The thread is about UFOs, and you posted stating that “we” can travel faster than light. You posted that assertion to support your argument that the UFO under discussion is an actual alien spacecraft, and not the mylar party balloon it appears to be. Who was the “we” you referred to? “We” humans, or “we” aliens?

75 posted on 12/10/2020, 11:08:19 AM by dinodino ( )
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To: dinodino
No I did not say we can travel faster than light. Bullcrap again. Nice try though. Now you are starting to lose reading retention.

78 posted on 12/10/2020, 11:18:10 AM by zaxtres (`)
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To: dinodino
No I did not say we can travel faster than light. Bullcrap again. Nice try though. Now you are starting to lose reading retention.

Next time you assert I said something. You need to post what I said. No more bullcrap you said this bullcrap. Post exactly what I said because right now you are trying to put words into my mouth that I never said.

79 posted on 12/10/2020, 11:19:31 AM by zaxtres (`)
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To: zaxtres
Actually, you said *exactly* that. You said, and I quote, “By leveraging this property of nature, we truly can go faster than light.”

You posted those words, right?

80 posted on 12/10/2020, 11:20:18 AM by dinodino ( )
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To: dinodino
Actually, you said *exactly* that. You said, and I quote, “By leveraging this property of nature, we truly can go faster than light.”

You posted those words, right?
Copy and paste and give post number.

82 posted on 12/10/2020, 11:24:48 AM by zaxtres (`)
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87 posted on 12/10/2020 8:34:22 AM PST by zaxtres (`)
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To: dinodino
Hey dododo brain...one other thing I am going to point out here for you from the very first posting on this thread I did and I will post the entire thing once more for your limited mind to comprehend. The emphasis will be mine.

To: allendale

Either you accept Einstein’s theories of relativity or you beleive UFOs are visiting earth. You cannot beleive both.

I before E except after C! I choose to believe both but with the caveat mentioned in the below article.

Nothing can move faster than the speed of light. When Einstein set forth his theory of relativity, this was his inviolable postulate: that there was an ultimate cosmic speed limit, and that only massless particles could ever attain it. All massive particles could only approach it, but would never reach it. The speed of light, according to Einstein, was the same for all observers in all reference frames, and no form of matter could ever attain it.

But this interpretation of Einstein omits an important caveat: all of this is only true in the vacuum of purely, perfectly empty space. Through a medium of any type — whether that’s air, water, glass, acrylic, or any gas, liquid, or solid — light travels at a measurably slower speed. Energetic particles, on the other hand, are only bound to travel slower than light in a vacuum, not light in a medium. By leveraging this property of nature, we truly can go faster than light. Light emitted by the Sun travels through the vacuum of space at exactly 299,792,458 m/s: the... [+] ultimate cosmic speed limit. As soon as that light strikes a medium, however, including something like Earth’s atmosphere, those photons will drop in speed as they move only at the speed of light through that medium. While no massive particle can ever attain the speed of light in a vacuum, it can easily attain or even exceed the speed of light in a medium.

Light emitted by the Sun travels through the vacuum of space at exactly 299,792,458 m/s: the... [+] FYODOR YURCHIKHIN / RUSSIAN SPACE AGENCY Imagine a ray of light that travels directly away from the Sun. In the vacuum of space, if no particles or matter are present, it will indeed travel at the ultimate cosmic speed limit, c: 299,792,458 m/s, the speed of light in a vacuum. Although humanity has produced extremely energetic particles in colliders and accelerators — and detected even more energetic particles coming from extragalactic sources — we know we cannot break this limit.

At the LHC, the accelerated protons can reach speeds up to 299,792,455 m/s, just 3 m/s below the speed of light. At LEP, which accelerated electrons and positrons instead of protons in the same CERN tunnel that the LHC now occupies, the top particle speed was 299,792,457.9964 m/s, which is the fastest accelerated particle ever created. And the highest-energy cosmic ray clocks in with an extraordinary speed of 299,792,457.999999999999918 m/s, which would lose a race with a photon to Andromeda and back by only six seconds.

30 posted on 12/10/2020, 10:05:54 AM by zaxtres (`) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies | Report Abuse

Stop being idiotic.
96 posted on 12/10/2020 8:40:05 AM PST by zaxtres (`)
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